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Stealing America With Joe Hoft | MSOM Ep. 926

February 06, 2024 Episode 926
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Gateway Pundit contributor and author of "The Steal" series of books exposing the fraudulent election of 2020, Joe Hoft joins the show to discuss 2024 and much more.

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Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness. We've got a jam-packed show for you. Today. We're going to be spending the hour with Joe Hoff of the Gateway Pundit. We're going to talk about the 2020 steel what we can expect in 2024. Biden, haley, trump and beyond, buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness.

Speaker 7:

I think you know my mother had an expression Out of everything terrible, something good will come if you look hard enough for it. I think this presents us with some significant opportunities to make some real changes. You know we are at an inflection point. I believe in the world economy, not just the world economy. In the world it occurs every three or four generations. As one of the top military people said to me in a secure meeting the other day, 60 million people died between 1900 and 1946. And since then we established a liberal world order and that hadn't happened in a long while. A lot of people died, but nowhere near the chaos. And now is the time when things are shifting. We're going to be a new world order out there and we've got to lead it. We've got to unite the rest of the free world in doing it.

Speaker 6:

Now that clip is from a couple of years ago, march of 2022. And Joe can barely speak then. Obviously, this guy is not all there. It's continually gotten worse. But what he can talk about is that new world order, that globalist vision that they have been trying to impose not only on the world but this country in particular through this administration, and one of the goals of that world order is to eliminate free and fair elections. Wow, what Touting democracy and saving it as they destroy our democratic principles within our constitutional republic and that constitutional republic itself. On behalf of this vision of a new world order, to talk about that and much more is Joe Hofft, one of the driving forces over at the Gateway Pundit, one of the best alternative media websites out there. Joe, first of all, thank you so much for joining us and, before we get into some of the other topics today, what are your thoughts of Biden and this globalist vision? It's not really his vision. He's a mouthpiece for that vision. He clearly hasn't been running the country the last several years. He's not running much of a campaign in 2024. But apparently he's the guy on the ballot. What can we expect from Biden in the coming months and is he going to be the nominee?

Speaker 8:

Man? That's a great question. It's crazy. It's crazy world, you know. It's totally crazy world with Joe Biden, this guy, he's out to lunch, you know what? My first observation as I watch that is they have this girl who does sign language off to the side. She's not an attractive woman. She makes these weird faces as she's doing it. I just think it's all just a sham. I mean, a lot of people can read today and you can put the. You know, you can, you can, you can read as somebody's talking right now with the technology we have, I just don't even understand why you have sign language right now. It just doesn't make sense to me and and I'm not deaf and I don't know but to me that whole thing is just a total sham. To just embarrass us. It's. I think everything that these guys do ultimately is to embarrass us, shame us, make us feel less than take away our dignity and everything. And watching this senile man next to this lady doing the sign language stuff, it's just it's, it's a parody, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's not even laughable, it's, it's, it's shame in your face. And that, to me, does come from, like the world economic form that does come from China, that does come from our enemies who appear to be running this country. I don't know if, you know, Joe Biden really even understands what's going on today, that you just, you know, every, every day, he's coming out mumbling more and more. It's just pathetic. So, yeah, I what you know, I'm with you, Jason. I'm like they're going to run this guy and you know, I've I've read and heard that that's what communist regimes did. They just got these really drunk guys in there that would run for, you know, run the country supposedly, and you could tell they weren't running a thing. They're, you know, they're running to the, to the bar, to grab another drink, and, and, and, and. We've got this, this thing, in the White House. That's just, we're all, we're all ashamed of, the whole world's ashamed of, and it's impacted us really, I think you know, subconsciously on on a level that shames us and makes us feel less than this great country that's so great, One of the greatest countries in world history. And here this is, this is what they're doing to us. They they want to demoralize us and and Joe Biden's their great tool to do that.

Speaker 6:

And as they do that, they certainly put people behind him that are making moves. You know we've discussed before John Kerry on the global stage, over at Davos, over at the UN, on behalf of this command and control climate agenda. It's just been announced that he is no longer going to be the UN envoy and instead they're bringing in John Podesta. The idea that John Podesta still has the type of political power that he does and that that power is now going to be espoused in public if or when they put another Democrat, maybe even Biden, back in the White House, is a very scary thing, joe.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, jason, I'm telling you what the Podesta brothers been around a long time in Washington DC politics. One thing I noticed a few years back is that the day that Bill Clinton was impeached by the, by the Republican House I think it was only second time in US history and he went back to the White House. Of course he had been involved with Monica Lewinsky, and you could probably argue that Kenneth Starr and that whole effort was was pretty sleazy effort, but the facts are he did obstruct justice and he was involved in this in cover, and that was the crime scene, and wasn't it Trump? They never could get him for that. It was process crimes that they were after. Anyways, john, when Clinton went back to the White House back then, who was there to emcee the event? On the White House lawn, with all these Democrats behind him, you know, saying how upset they were about this whole event, and the media was there to protect him as well. But John Podesta. John Podesta was running. They were running this, you know, emceeing this event where they all just complained about how horrible it was that he had been in peace only the second person in history at that time. Now, of course, they have no problem Impeaching President Trump on bogus crimes, a phone call that he had with the Ukraine, and also another. The second one this made up insurrection that was a setup by the deep state on January 6. So so it's unbelievable stuff that we've had to endure here with these Democrats, and some of them, like Podesta, have been around forever. Podesta is taken over after John Kerry in this climate effort, but Podesta, for the last few years, has been given this job where he's able to dish out Billions of dollars he was given, like a, I believe is around a four hundred billion, three hundred billion dollar inventory of Money to pass around. You can bet that not a dime went to the American people. Not a dime went to conservative efforts To ensure elections, for example, are free and fair and transparent. This all was money likely to all the Podesta friends and the Biden friends and you know, the world economic forum, for all we know. And now Podesta is moving over and and probably gonna be a key component in this campaign for Joe Biden for, you know, for president for 2024, which is Laughable at best. We don't even know if Biden can make it by then. He'll just he won't even be able to talk. You have to wheel him out in a cart, in a bed. So this is a. This is what these guys do. They're just sleazeballs that have been around a long time.

Speaker 6:

So he's definitely one of those gears in the machine that is the deep state, like you said, been around for decades. When you talk about the climate stuff, you know, I've often pointed to what is it? Earth 2100, which is this collaboration between mainstream media and the government to put out this scenario of global warming which, in the first 30 seconds, all of a sudden New York City is under quarantine and everybody on the west coast is in blue masks. You can't make that stuff up. People like Podesta, james Woolsey, eric Schmidt, van jones, all in that and then you move Podesta up. I mean again been around this game for a very, very long time. You get to the 2020 election. He's actually one of the people. That war game the scenario that trump wins in a landslide and how do we steal it? How do we actually get it so we don't have the electoral college vote for him, if he in fact does get the votes. They really war game that. And podesta I forget who he played, but I think william crystal was also Involved in that as well. So podesta has been around a very long time. He doesn't seem to be going anywhere. That should scare everybody. You don't want that guy with any sort of power. In fact, when we talk about actual criminal investigations, it's people like him and his brother that you'd like to go after. Yet we have the media now in full force attacking trump once again, and when you look at this, it seems to me that the media is now almost conceding that trump is the obvious choice For the candidacy. Yet We'll be talking about this a little later they definitely want nicky hailey to be that Um winner of the primary and on the national ballot. So so what are your thoughts now that the media has again come full circle? There's it's just trump and hailey. They're trying to prop I mean nicky hailey's on snl this week, joe, you know. Meanwhile, the attack dogs are back back at it on trump. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 8:

Well, yeah, more of the same, and it's outrageous. You know, jason, the other day I was just a couple days ago I was talking to somebody and reminded of how you know all these people probably you and others had Big, big youtube accounts that were doing really well and then, all of a sudden, censorship hit america and and all these people that had big followings, making a lot of money on youtube, suddenly were Banned and kicked off a youtube because their their topics were that, hey, america is a good place, president trump's a good person, conservative values are great, christianity is great, things like that were ultimately censored by the, by this, this youtube entity, I. I still don't see how that in any way Protects the american people, what they were able to do there, and so we just kind of. Now. Then we saw it with twitter, we saw it with social media. I saw it after the 2016 election when trump won. I did a study for jim at the gateway pundit and, and we looked at the top 10 conservative sites before the election and compared them to a year later their numbers on facebook, and the numbers were down 95 percent. And at the same time, you had zuckerberg going in front of congress saying, oh, we don't censor on conservatives. It was an absolute lie and all these. And once he said it, then you can see the republican saying, okay, well, there it is, he's not censoring and and it just fools that they are and and and. They're not there for the american people. They're not there, certainly for for those of us in the in the in the news Industry that want to get the truth out and. But the good news is, I guess, is that Big media no longer people trust don't even go there. Cable news is now being diminished as well, especially with, like tucker carlson leaving fox news and and banjino and others. It doesn't have the credibility that it has. I haven't followed fox news since election night 2020. I was so appalled by the way they talked to me like I'm bad because I was supporting president trump and and and. So it's sites like this that are growing in popularity, and and, as people want the truth, and so I think it's their loss and it's our gain. We just got to continue to share the truth, as tough as it may be at times. The things that grabbed me is how, not only did they censor us, not only did they censor president trump, not Only did they kick us off their platforms and and all that. But we found out Just a couple years ago through the twitter files and and that missouri case against against big tech, that they've been not only censoring us, but it's being paid for by the us Government. And so we have the state department and the defense departments and and the fbi, for example, paying three million dollars to twitter In this effort to censor us after the 2020 election. And I'll tell you, no entity was censored more than the gate. We pondered at that time and we were just dropping bombs on the election, many of them Uh, which I, which I reported in my books since then but that they could not. They could not allow this to continue. They had to. Uh, they had a concerted effort where they're working with the fbi and then with uh stanford Etc, to to censor all of us. Here's my first book, which was really talking about looking back At setting the stage. What were the things that led up to the 2020 election? We knew that we were being censored. After the election, we could say that, but it wasn't until like three years later that we knew Not only we'd been censored, but we are being it's being paid for by the us Government. They are funding fact checkers I'll say in quotation marks like politifact. They are paying for entities like this one in the uk who's attacking our advertisers. This is outrageous. That's what's going on there. I see no way that that can be legal, but that to me would be. You know the kind of stuff that john pedesta would be heavily involved in. It's probably the you know the sleazebag it he is. It's probably one of his ideas. This is what they do. They feel like. Well, if we can totally, like a communist or fascist regime, shut down the truth, then we can get away with our crimes. And that's exactly. It seems to me like what they're doing you know right now and what they intend to really. I've even heard they want to ramp it up over the next year. So expect it a lot more of this.

Speaker 6:

Well, let me just say this they call it narrative management and it's not in a past census. Actually, worse than what you say. It's not just paying for that censorship, but a lot of former intelligence officials are within these companies. And then you have programs like signature reduction, where you have 60,000 people working within the united states undercover as part of a national security program. We'd be fools to think that they weren't embedded in companies like google. And that brings me to youtube. You know you talk about youtube channels and censorship. It's still going on today. When the epstein documents recently, about a month ago, when the retractions were coming out and I'd done a ton of work I think over 200 videos on epstein, not only did. I had a video taken down for cyber bullying which was literally me just reading a lot of the documents that just had small redactions taken out and were being Released, but I had no recourse. They always tell you that you're able to appeal. No appeals on that video. That's where we're at in america in 2024. You got to take a break when we come back. I want to talk more tucker carlson, alternative media and his trip over to russia. Russia, the mainstream media is having a meltdown over this folks and I got to tell you I can't wait to see the poop poop interview back with joe hoff after this.

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Speaker 6:

And we are back with Joe Hopped of the Gateway Pundit and the author of the Steel series of books. Joe, it looks like Tucker finally did it Went over to Russia. He'd actually been talking about this while he was on Fox News, not necessarily on Fox News itself, but in other interviews that he would like to get an interview with Vladimir Putin. He actually revealed that in that instance that he had his phone illegally wire tapped almost immediately when that was out there. Well, now it looks like he's actually done it. If the interview hasn't taken place, it will be taking place shortly and I bet we see it by the end of the week on social media. This is, unfortunately, a new groundbreaking standard for the media in this country. Old school, not a big deal, right? Nbc, cbs they'd all interview Putin. But since the Russia hysteria, since the war in Ukraine and yes, it is a war, folks they're trying to send billions and billions and billions more over there. We already have US special forces and mercenaries on the ground. That war is being directed via communication systems of Starlink. The Musker Nuts and the crew make no mistake about it. We're at war Now. You can't even talk to this guy Now. You can't get that perspective. Now I'm already seeing the fear mongering. It looks like it's going to be on X, so they won't be able to censor it there. I expect some of it to be not just marginalized but demonized in the mainstream media, but perhaps on these other platforms censored as well. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 8:

Good question, I expect, yeah, for sure, he's going to be interviewing Putin. It sounds like a given, doesn't it? People's heads are exploding. I also have a show now in the mornings from 10 to 11 on TNT Radio Live, and in that show yesterday I had George Papadopoulos on and he said something that I just thought was shocking, but true, and I think that's how most of these statements are that are just brutally honest. They blow you away and it's like right there in front of us. And George, of course, was caught up in the Russia collusion sham, where they said he was some sort of Russian agent, tried to tie him to Russians, tried to tie him to having knowledge of the Russians or hacking the DNC and giving these information that they hacked to WikiLeaks, which was a total lie. We now know that was a total lie. This is what he was harassed for, spied on for, set up for, especially over in the UK, and the thing that he said is you know, this whole thing was about Russia. And I said to him you know, it really concerned me when they were doing this, saying Russia was involved, because I'm sitting here thinking back in 2016, 17,. Hey, russia has got nukes. What are we doing. We're going to be there. That's not a good thing. And now then Biden comes in and he starts a war with Russia, in essence, and he's keeping it going by funding it, like you said, jason. But the thing is, the Papadopoulos said the Democrats want a war with Russia, and I mean pretty astounding words, but I think it's true. It's like they've been doing this for now at least almost eight years, where they've been poking that bear with Russia. So now we get somebody, especially of the stature of Tucker. Carlson is probably number one, if not in the US and the world, as far as getting views. I think I heard his interview with President Trump had more than 200, maybe 220 million views. He's tremendously popular. He's going to interview Putin and the left freaks out. And I don't know, jason, if you've heard of this, but I just had people on my show that are really well versed in the topic of US history, especially the last really couple since our inception. The British have been involved in the US for a very long time. They supported the Confederacy in the Civil War. I didn't know that Most of the guns that the Confederates used in Gettysburg were British guns. They were involved in the assassination of Lincoln involved in the assassination of McKinley, some say involved in the assassination of John F Kennedy I mean this group and then we know that they were involved in Russia collusion, because the steel dossier comes out of England. It comes from an MI-6 officer steel, so they've been messing with the US for a long time. I think perhaps, and maybe I'd be interested in your thoughts on this are the British constantly trying to villainize Russia? Because, by the way, I even learned that Russia stood up against England during the Civil War and said if you start a war with the North, we are going to go to war with you. And that prevented England from getting into the war. And what I think was maybe their action there was probably to see if they could take back the United States, since their efforts to date hadn't worked. So they've been involved. This is maybe you know what is going on. Who's behind this effort to continue some sort of war with Russia. And then Tucker comes in and they are scared to death over what Putin might say and what Tucker might say as he goes and talks to Putin. They don't want anything but villainize, to villainize Putin. So big stuff going on right now. It's really huge.

Speaker 6:

You know, in my viewpoint, when I look at kind of the European involvement in parapolitics and the position on Russia, especially the UK, I think you have Russia as really the one barrier to their NATO global governance alignment right. They're opposed to a lot of that and although obviously they speak at the United Nations, they're not on board with a lot of the policies and they're that last first world nation that kind of has to fall in line militarily. And I think that Vladimir Putin is of that kind of old school. You know he didn't like what was going on during the Gorbachev and Yeltsin years and kind of that homogenation. You know he saw a lot of those corporate and political interests infiltrate his country and to some extent I would say they never left. I mean, when you look, you know, at the 80s and 90s, they're a lot different, especially when you talk about a place like Ukraine. And when you look at the late 90s you know people like Soros and Hillary Clinton were making trips over to the Ukraine at that point to destabilize the region. So I really don't even look at it kind of like a nation state thing. I see this kind of alliance even when you talk about, you know, the Democrats trying to start a war with Russia with this narrative that they hacked the election. Russia didn't hack anything. Everybody knows that's a download dump. Okay, assad just said many times on record that he did not get that information from the Russians. Okay, and that there was no hack. All right. So those are important things, since the guy has 100% record of being honest about his sources and the material has 100% correct. In other words, he's never put out false information, and I would even go as far as to say it's not just the Democrats trying to bring us to war. What are there? A handful of Republicans that are really speaking out against this latest bill. It's like Mike Lee and Rand Paul, not that many. That's scary. Many people have been behind that. So to me, you know. The next question is if there is an escalation of some type of a hot war just an admission, or a further military conflict with Iran, which will side with Russia, which could pop off a global conflict. We even have a 2024 election.

Speaker 8:

Yeah, a lot of people are concerned about that, jason, been saying that for some time. Right, what's going to? You know, what's their October surprise? Or maybe a COVID surprise, which we learned in 2020? What is it that they'd like to do to get rid of an election? Well, you know, there's a couple of things, jason. One is some people and even Tucker has mentioned this the assassination of President Trump. That would pretty much. That would set things off in the US for sure, and it would. The election would be in chaos because there's nobody, I don't think on the right, that could fit in Trump's shoes with his policy stance, strength and courage. We just haven't seen that for many people at all. So it'd be. It certainly is not Nikki Haley. That lady is as corrupt as the day is long. She's a Democrat and at least or she's an elitist whatever you want to call them, these world economic form kind of individuals that she doesn't have America's interest at her heart. She's to me. I'm just so disgusted by her. I've been disgusted by all these people that stood up against Trump. Personally, jason, this is my point of view, but it's like this guy had this election stolen from him and, and and they, they say nothing about that. They do nothing to ensure that our elections are safe and secure in this next election and instead they look at this as an opportunity to sneak in if he gets thrown in prison, that they could maybe sneak in and steal the, the nomination from the Republican Party. I find that disgusting and, by the way, there's some breaking news right now. I saw Rasmussen just came out with a, with a report, and they go back and they mentioned on the 2020 election, how the CISA, this government body, said hey, these were the most secure elections in in US history. Well, there's some information that's been released that says no, they knew that there was no need, due to COVID, to basically change the election process. They knew a number of things that they put in place in order to steal that election and they were silent on it. So, to suggest that our government and and this election wasn't rotten from the core is, you know, it's really pathetic and and it's kind of scary because there hasn't been a lot of really, to me, a lot of great efforts to to shore up this process. That's entirely just a joke.

Speaker 6:

It's just and Joe that that's the big problem right now in 2024, we haven't changed anything. We still have voting machines with proprietary software. We still don't have an ability to audit these elections after the fact and if there is some kind of disaster you know I've joked about not only the return of mail-in ballots, but hell, if it's bad enough, maybe email ballots as well. We got to take a break. When we come back, I want to talk more about Nikki Haley and the call for a Biden Trump debate. We haven't seen one in almost four years. Folks Making sense of the madness. Back with Joe Hoff after this.

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And we are back with Joe Hofft and we've been talking about Biden. Now Biden recently got confronted, I'd say, asked the question about Trump calling for an immediate debate. It is clear that Trump is the front-runner in this. Joe Biden, like he often does, looked confused and didn't know exactly what to say and he said well, you know, I'd want to debate me too if I were him. He's got nothing else to do. He's running a campaign. Joe. He actually goes places, several places a day. Joe, I know that you didn't have to run a campaign in 2020. I know that back in the day, when you were running, back in 2008,. It was a joke campaign, you really. But you did a little campaign trail and then he hasn't done anything Again. Biden looks like. He looks, you know, almost as bad as Jimmy Carter does at this point. That's not a knock on Jimmy Carter, I'm just saying physically. He looks that bad. So when I see a response like that, even if Trump gets the nomination and we're going to get there in a moment will we even see if it is Trump? Biden too? Is there even one presidential debate? What did we get? We got one last time right.

Speaker 8:

I doubt it. What do you think? I mean? You know, the last one was this it was bad enough, joe.

Speaker 6:

It was bad enough last time that we got one debate where they obviously hyped Biden up on amphetamines. You know, it's not like he did great, but did he do better than 3.0.0, joe, and the baby and the record player? He did miles better, but they didn't want to run the gamut twice, you know. So I won. That was historical anyway. You know, we usually see about three, four presidential debates before the election. That's kind of the norm. We saw one. Everybody wants to say, oh, covid 1984, everything changed. I don't know. We get a debate, a presidential debate, in 2024, and that is a scary aspect because that's really been a staple of our constitutional republic and really of our culture, joe.

Speaker 8:

Well, the one thing President Trump did do in 2020 that I thought was about time was hey, he says I'm not going to do this if we have a bunch of radicals asking all the questions standing up for Joe Biden. Chris Wallace was toxic in that first debate. I remember Jim writing about it at the Gateway Pundit saying, hey, trump had to debate two people in that debate. It was Chris Wallace standing up for Joe Biden. Joe Biden's up there lying talking about the Hunter Biden laptop and how that's a lie, and 50 people have said that it's a lie in the Intel community all 50 of who lied when they said that. Because, of course, we now know that the Hunter Biden laptop is real, that it's got all sorts of crimes in it and the perversion is unbelievable. Unbelievable stuff that we reported at the Gateway Pundit some right before the election in 2020. Which I was censored for on Twitter wasn't put. A few months later I'm gone. They knocked me off Twitter and they you know what they've never given me my account back on Twitter either. So I've asked for it, but they won't give it back, even since Elon came on board. But the possibility of a debate seems very remote. I don't think Biden could do it and, like you said, there were things in the 2020 election that were so shocking. For example, you mentioned Biden didn't he didn't really campaign in 2020. Remember, we were making fun of him for mostly being in the basement, and then he had these events where he had circles on the ground and these perfect circles, and then nobody was there. These were all like productions, I think. Mostly the people in the circles were the press and even then, as many of these events that Biden had, there wasn't even people in all the circles. So I kept track. I kept the tally of all the events that Biden had and all the events that Trump had in 2016 and 2020. President Trump's numbers increased dramatically over 2016, even where he was really crushing Hillary in campaign goers at his events. Compared to Hillary's, he just crushed her. And in 2020, with Biden, trump was even more. I came up with 1.1 million people that showed up at Trump's events compared to Biden's less than 2,000 people, and yet again, they were trying to convince us that this guy, who could barely walk or talk with only 2,000 people following him at these events, somehow beats this guy with 1.6 million people at his events. Remember, in Pennsylvania there's like 60,000 people in the field In Miami. They're singing in Spanish songs about Trump with. It looked like 60,000 people there. He was crushing it and that was one of the big things that made me realize what's going on here. One of the other pieces that we learned after the election is January 6th. There's people that were there that say that was the biggest crowd they'd ever seen. There was at least a million people there. On the other hand, joe Biden, two weeks later, has his inauguration and if it wasn't for the press and fellow Democrat and some Republican politicians, I don't know if Biden would have had 2,000 people there. So the numbers are consistent. They don't make sense. Biden didn't have a base. Then still doesn't have a base. I don't think there's anybody that really likes it. I mean, you mentioned Jimmy Carter. I saw Biden's numbers right now are as bad as Jimmy Carter's were and the lowest over the modern era. People do not like this guy and I think another big thing, jason, is to see conservatives who are traditionally Christian and God-loving, country-loving, good people that don't raise their voices, that rarely say things that are out of line. They sit back and are very polite and considerate, to see them sharing things like F Joe Biden a chance in coliseums and stadiums and everywhere. It just really shows how badly Biden really is, you know, terribly disliked and in big part because we're getting more and more evidence every day, even that the 2020 election was invalid and you know we could talk more about that, but it's, you know, can buy. I don't think Biden could stand for an hour and he would mumble so bad. They are not going to allow Joe Biden to get anywhere near Trump in any type of debate. It's just not going to happen.

Speaker 6:

So that brings us to the other side of the table and Nikki Haley. And Nikki Haley has now requested a secret service protection. This shows that she has no plans of getting out of this race. Nikki Haley frightens me because, as Vivek Ramaswamy has said, she is like Cheney in heels and as a war hawk for sure, I'd say Cheney's probably a little bit smarter, a little bit more vicious, but he also looks that way, right, it's nice to have that person in heels with a fake political smile and a vast political record, to kind of put these ideas out there. She's clearly a globalist minion of the predator class and their ideals. So it's my, you know. I think they're going to try to fast track these trials. I obviously think they're going to try to put Trump in prison before the elections. If there is a guilty verdict in any of them, obviously there will be a movement to disqualify him from the nomination, even though there is no law that exists that says you can't run for the presidency from jail. What are your thoughts on the next moves for Haley? Because obviously she's the establishment darling. Like I said, they just brought her out over on SNL and had her debating Trump. Why won't you debate Nikki Haley. She's not a likable person. Okay, I think that her numbers are cooked right now and I think there's a concerted effort to try to put her out there. What do you think?

Speaker 8:

I think what said at all is when she gets third in Iowa and comes out and just said it was such a success. You're like your third place, nikki, what's going on? And then she's going over to New Hampshire with Sununu, a son of a politician who's just really to me an angry snake of a guy. He's in the GOP but wouldn't trust him either. And here he is, back in Nikki Haley. She's really running with a dark crowd. If you ask me, I don't trust her. I think she was involved. President Trump brought her in, as you recall, to be in the United Nations and to be our representative there and there was some discussion, as I recall, back when she was about the time she got let go Trump, let her go and a few others. It was at that time and I believe later there was in new windows that there was an attempt to get rid of Trump, trying to remove him from inside. He wasn't going to leave due to the sham Mueller exam. So I think there was another effort to get enough cabinet members to take Trump out. And I believe Nikki Haley was. I believe and I don't recall the evidence that I have for this I believe she was involved in that. There were some of the generals that couldn't be trusted. It was a sad situation because Trump had brought in all these people that I think some of them he was thinking that they would jump on hey, let's save America bus, but many, if not all of them never did. They were on the let's get rid of Trump bus, which is so concerning, and that's really the bus that Nikki Haley's on. She's not popular, she's not well liked. She's pretty pathetic. If anything happens to Trump, I'll bet money that she's not the answer. Somebody else would have to rise and, quite frankly, I hope that doesn't happen. But I think you might be right, jason, about the fact that they're going to try to get Trump in prison at all costs, and so that's something we're going to have to deal with as the time comes by. That could be their COVID of 2024.

Speaker 6:

I absolutely agree and we're going to talk about that on the other side of this break because we have this court decision that basically says Trump is not immune from the sham prosecution in DC Via January 6th. We're going to come back and talk about it with Joe Hoff of the Gateway Punda and the author of the Steel series will be back after this.

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Speaker 6:

And we are back with Joe Hoff and, as I said before, the mainstream media attacks are now ramping up against Trump. We've got more fact checks and I read this, by the way Trump makes false claims about Iraq, iran and Nikki Haley in New Fox interview, and when they start talking about Iraq, they go all the way back to 2002, actually a Howard Stern interview where he asks him about the invasion of Iraq and whether he would be for it, and he says well, I guess, but I think we should have done it right the first time, obviously referencing the Gulf War in the 90s with Bush one, but, as we saw as the years went by and the war on terror continually was shown to be a sham, he spoke out against it. It was one of his talking points as he ran in 2016. And look, trump's foreign policy far from perfect, in my opinion. However, he did try to get us out of Afghanistan. You know, basically, the military brass wasn't going. He spoke out against Syria. He didn't start any new wars of aggression and even recently, he made the blood and treasure comment. Here we go in the Middle East again and the fact is, yeah, we spilled a lot of blood on their side and on our side, where's all the treasure? And he goes by the way. The treasure is never worth it. So the media really wants to, you know, reshape his first term, you know, because he's a Nazi dictator. He's going to put everybody in jail, he's going to execute him, he's going to end the press. All things he didn't do in the four years he was in office. But now he's absolutely going to do them and he's fighting these criminal battles and, as I said, I really think they're going to try to put him in prison. He has now recently tried to appeal this case and say, hey, I should have immunity and really there is no crime there. And look what's happening with January 5th. It's more and more coming out that it seems the Pipe Palmer was a government operation and we already know all the Swiss cheese holes in the establishment story of the non-insurrection on January 6th. Yet guess what, joe, you still can be tried for it. The judge throws it out. It looks like we're going to see this case. I could see us, you know, seeing this case somewhere in the summertime, maybe even late summer. So you get that October surprise, you know, you start it in July or August or something like that, and then again the country's in peril. Our president's been found guilty. He's going to jail. You know, these are the scenarios that are running through my mind. What are your thoughts on this latest court decision and when do you think we're going to see this trial, now that we've seen this decision?

Speaker 8:

You know, jason, I think if Trump gets thrown in jail, he'll become more popular. I really do, you know, because people can see through it and it's isn't ironic and moronic and just total projection for the Democrats. And this you know bogus media. He's so disgusting. Cnn is really one of the more disgusting outfits on you know in the US that you throw in Washington Post, new York Times and a few others. It's just MSNBC. They're just propaganda pushers. And what about what Joe Biden has done? These arrested a thousand people that were there on January 6th, thrown them in jail. These are people that protested legally the 2020 election. We have evidence that it never should have been certified. And we've got these guys now like a dictator, throwing President Trump, all his supporters, into jail. Anybody that speaks out against him gets sued, like myself, like Jim, like the Gateway Pundit, like Rudy Giuliani, like Roger Stone, like President Trump. We get botched up in the courts and yet they're calling us fascists. I mean, my God, they're getting ready to throw President Trump into prison for things that are garbage. There was no insurrection. We have more and more evidence every day. And then the thing that's so disgusting about this piece there that you showed from CNN. That title is that they make it sound like this is really legitimate, that President Trump doesn't have immunity. They don't really mention that. That court that ruled on that is far left nutjobs that are Obama appointees, most likely all of them that hate President Trump. And now it's going to go to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court's going to have to man up and rule and we got to just hope and pray, because they are so sporadic in the rulings, that they'll do the right thing. I mean, these are the same Supreme Court, minus one liberal out of liberal that voted against, even bringing on the Texas case, saying the President of the United States didn't have standing in this case, or 26 states didn't have standing in that case. I've had somebody on my show from Italy laugh at that and say how can that be that the President didn't have standing in a case regarding his election, but this Supreme Court said we're not even going to look at it, he doesn't have standing. So there's no faith in this current Supreme Court, even though Trump put three individuals on that court. I'd say Gorsuch is the best, the other two are questionable. And then you've got Judge Roberts, who's a lunatic. Some people think he's been framed through his actions in the past. So this is pretty concerning. It's not going to end there. It's not going to this appellate court, isn't going to end there. It's going to go to the Supreme Court and we'll get a ruling. Overall, I think Trump has a great argument. He says, hey, the President has immunity. And he says, if you don't allow this, what's going to happen is every president, once they leave office, they're going to just start getting slammed with court cases, and that's what we've seen under this regime how they've slammed President Trump and the people that support him. They're even slamming Catholics and Christians that are preying outside of abortion clinics. They're slamming parents at school boards meetings because these school boards are allowing pornography and their schools and pushing transgenderism and all that. So this is a total projection. This fascist thing is so disgusting. This thing isn't over. The Supreme Court is going to have to rule on it. But that's a toss up, because these guys have beclowned themselves a number of times lately and you just don't know what madness. The most recent thing was the border in Texas, where they say no, you got to let these illegal immigrants to cross that border and come into your country, and we don't know if they're from Iran or Iraq or Syria or wherever they may be, but you got to let them in. They can walk right in, and that's what we need to do, as if they have a right to come into our country and the citizens don't have a right to be protected. Lunacy and madness in our courts, that's at the Supreme Court. So that ruling alone should cause us all a lot of concern about what's going to happen with this one.

Speaker 6:

Let me just say this the Supreme Court has been for some time and continues to be hot garbage. I truly believe that even their ruling on abortion was a limited one in order to cause not just division but the viewing of division. So in other words, you're setting that narrative red, blue, right, left, more division. So it wasn't really because it is a state's rights issue or because they are pro-life. You had that decision. Then you just talked about that horrible decision in Texas. I think that that also gives leeway to the federal government coming in on everything and eviscerating states rights altogether, because if you can't protect your border, you also wouldn't be able to protect your citizens. I don't know from authoritarian vaccine or biomedical mandates that have come down from the federal government. You mentioned the Missouri case earlier. You had a state Supreme Court that makes the correct decision and says whoa, this is obvious collusion, we need to look at this. And what do we have? We have our federal Supreme Court step in and say, well, maybe, but we're going to look at it. Until we look at it, we're going to side with the government and then, like you said, to say the president and really the people don't have standing to audit, an election says it all. We got to take one more break. We're going to wrap it up on the other side with your thoughts, joe. It is making sense of the madness, and we'll be back after this.

Speaker 11:

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Speaker 6:

Final segment of making sense of the madness Joe Hoff with us, of the Gateway Pundit, of course, of the Steel series of books. Joe, we got about two minutes left in the broadcast. What would you like to leave the audience with, or what are the things that we should be paying attention to on the run up to this 2024 election?

Speaker 8:

Yeah, I got you know wise eyes wide open. Right, we've got to. We've got everything and anything is going to be coming at us and we just got to be prepared. I think we need to work really hard on ensuring that our elections are in place and working. Thanks for mentioning my books. I've written three books on the steel, one setting the stage with, another one on what happened and the third one on the cover up. We can't trust the law enforcement right now. We can't trust the legislatures. We can't trust the courts. We've got to figure out a way to win this election ourselves. I was going to mention I do have a separate website now called joehoffcom, and I put posts and my shows, as well as sell my books, on that site. But one thing that I'm really excited about this coming up this weekend in Vero Beach, florida, is there an event where three individuals are going to be recognized, and I'm honored to be one of those three and the other two are Steve Bannon and James O'Keefe. So I'm like blown away by this opportunity being recognized for doing the work that I've done, especially related to the election, and looking forward to it. It'll be in Vero Beach. If you want any information on it, you could go to joehoffcom and there's an article in there about it and how you can get a seat. I think there's a couple of seats left. It's up there, abel Child, at the top, there in the dark. Abel Child is the entity that's going to be making these awards, so really thrilled to be part of that.

Speaker 6:

Joe, it's a pleasure, as always, to have you on the broadcast. We're going to have to get you on in the next few months as things heat up in the 2024 election. So I want to thank you and I want to thank you guys for watching us here at patriottv Monday through Friday at 6pm Eastern, where the truth lives. And remember, patriottv is expanding into TV, radio entertainment and much more, so consider supporting us there tomorrow. We've got Daniel Rosenberg and Zach Payne. Remember, it's not about left or right, always about right and wrong. I absolutely love you guys. I'll see you on the flip side.

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