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The Birthing Scam With Danielle Lasher | 4th Branch Ep. 40

February 05, 2024 Episode 40
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The Birthing Scam With Danielle Lasher | 4th Branch Ep. 40
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Evidence based natural child birth expert Danielle Lasher delves into the medical and pharma industry-wide grift using mothers and childbirth to create money-making systems that are harmful and even fatal to newborns and infants. SUPPORTING OUR PATRIOT SPONSORS = SUPPORTING & FUNDING PATRIOT.TV!
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Hi everybody, welcome to the show. I'm Sophia. The phrase natural childbirth implies the existence of, and in contrast to, unnatural childbirth, but childbirth is literally the oldest natural thing in the world Since the dawn of human existence. Quite literally, otherwise we wouldn't have a species. Women have been birthing babies naturally, so why would we need to distinguish it as such? Dig deeper into that question and the answer may surprise you. The answer starts, as usual, with the medical industrial complex led by the media mouthpiece and ends with we don't actually know what we don't know. We are aware of the unholy alliance between corporations and supposed human interest regulatory agencies, along with the pressure on every aspect of the infrastructure, witting and unwitting, to support the bottom line. In this case, all roads lead to pharma. But do we really understand the insidious and pernicious nature of the mechanisms hung from every bar of the scaffolding and blasted out through the media, while other information is neglected or even censored? Do we really have an understanding of what our options even are? I have to admit that I was one of those people who did not know what I did not know. The scam of getting women into hospitals starts in prenatal testing. They start nine months before looking for problems so that you are that high-risk person and then you are encouraged to come in and possibly induced. The scam is deep and wide and includes everything from prenatal vitamins to newborn vaccinations, to newborns being put on formulas, to pushing inducing labor, which can lead to unnecessary surgical procedures like cesarean sections, to pushing C-sections themselves. Essentially, they have the whole pregnancy to create the problem. You can opt out of the wrong kinds of tests so you won't be pigeonholed into the narrative in which they are trying to put you. But how would you know any of this or what any of them are? Induction is harmful to the birth experience. The risk of C-section is 50% higher. Put a pin in that and there is an increased risk of lack of full development. Would it surprise you to hear, then, that inductions are overdone even more than C-sections, and I'm sure I don't need to explain how a surgery or a medical procedure would mean more money for the hospital or medical institution than just a plain old uncomplicated birth. Thus would be encouraged. How Well, it's policy, or even you have to, and coercion and pressure are substantial. They say any number of things your placenta doesn't look great, the baby stopped growing, the baby isn't responding the way we want, we need to induce, or they perform a 41-week stress test during which they are virtually guaranteed to find some concern. Ultrasounds are notorious for being wrong, yet if you have enough of them, you can certainly find something to be concerned about. Have you heard of the top-up trap? I hadn't either. Women are encouraged to supplement with formula, but then their bodies don't produce enough milk because they're overfeeding the babies with formula. So now they're stuck in the trap of feeding their baby's formula instead of breast milk. And of course, there are no shortages of incentives between hospitals and formula companies. Sometimes the grift begins even before pregnancy, marketed to women who wish to become pregnant, with dire consequences. Folic acid is a synthetic form of folate, a necessary vitamin. Folic acid, not folate, is in all, almost all prenatal vitamins. Here's the problem. A mutation called MTHFR occurs in over 50% of people. This means that over 50% of people cannot assimilate folic acid or transfer it into folate so that it can cross the placenta. It gets worse. This mutation causes the body to not produce enough glutathione, which means you're not able to detox. If you have that mutation, your baby isn't getting enough folate and is deficient, and you don't detox. So it causes birth defects and miscarriages. The vitamin K scam is particularly alarming for reasons, not the least of which being it's not just vitamin K. Different brands contain different ingredients, most commonly the neurotoxin, aluminum, and the second most common is benzoyl alcohol, which causes gasping syndrome and respiratory distress in infants, for which they need more pharmaceuticals to treat. Polysorbate 80, another typical ingredient, along with aluminum, is being injected straight into your newborn, but mothers are told it's just vitamin K and have no idea they can opt out or request a different delivery system. They terrify parents with the possibility of an infant bleeding out or developing a rare hemorrhagic disorder, when the solution to this danger in fact causes far worse downstream harm. Newborns are usually born deficient in vitamin K. That's true. The alternative to vitamin K injections is amazingly simple Give the vitamin orally. It is safe and equally effective and devoid of any troubling side effects. Oral vitamin K is absorbed less efficiently than injected vitamin K K. However, this can be compensated for by adjusting the dose and since vitamin K is non-toxic, there is no danger of overdosing or a bad reaction. The amount of vitamin K injected into newborns is 20,000 times the needed dose. The hepatitis B scam is by far the most overt and transparent moneymaker for the pharmaceutical industry. First of all, the testing is pure romper room science nonsense. It was approved after one four day and one five day test On adults and it was a shot made to target habitual drug users and sex workers. The problem is they couldn't get that demographic to comply, so they repurposed it and remarketed it for newborns without any additional testing. Hep B vaccine contains the same neurotoxic aluminum as the other vaccine, so you're giving a newborn on the first day of life a neurotoxin. This would be bad enough, but of course in true fashion. That masks any future signal of because you've eliminated a control group. So you have no idea what that baby would have been like without it. Because you gave it at birth For a sexually transmitted disease, then a newborn is unlikely to contract. People don't know. They can deny any of this and often, when they do, the baby is accidentally injected anyway. Danielle Lashher is a natural childbirth educator hosting the largest community in her niche on Facebook, the Birth Circle. A twice published author, her work has been featured by the Tenpenny Report, baby Gaga, momscom, the Organic Daily Post and more. Danielle is also president of Informed Choice Maryland, a nonprofit that lobbies in favor of parental rights, informed consent and in support of the US Constitution. She lives outside of Washington DC and educates women like me about what we don't know. We don't know, so that we can return to our no pun intended birthright of the most natural thing in the world. Please welcome Danielle Lashher. Hi, hi, danielle. Thank you so much for being with us. Absolutely thank you so much for being with us. You know you have said to me offline many times you know, women don't know what they don't know and that's the biggest problem that we face. You know the media's constant barrage of the latest and greatest. Usually, you know, moneyed interest, gadget or whatever it is that they need to be doing protocol. It's just, it's bombardment and women don't know what they don't know. What do you see in your groups? Even? You know, after people are there for a little while and sort of have an inkling that there's something amok. What do you see in terms of, you know, women who start to get a hold of this, but then it's conflicting because they're getting all this other information from media or otherwise sources.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, it's interesting because I tell my group all the time. I think sometimes they look at me like you've created this massive group. But it's not just me, it's all of them. And that is what I see often with women who come in and maybe they've you know. I think the most common track is they had a birth they were disappointed in, or maybe it was heavily medicalized and they want to try to go natural the next time. And so they come into the group hoping to maybe have an answer or a question or two answered. And really it's all the scrolling and learning from everyone else's questions because instantly they have tens of thousands of women posting things they never thought about. It's all the questions they never knew they needed to ask and hundreds of comments reiterating the same and all of a sudden they find out oh my gosh, this is happening to everybody. And they see all of these women who used to be in their shoes and they took different steps and they had better outcomes. And I think that's really the biggest benefit of the community is just learning from other people's mistakes and being in that kind of think tank of natural birthing women. They come into it thinking they may. It may just be some other mom group and maybe they'll learn how to cope with the pain and they leave with a lot more knowledge than that.

Speaker 5:

And you've said also, it's about learning how to say no and learning how to stand up to the pressures and the coercion you know a woman has to know to say do not give maybe the formula do not give my baby a pacifier. But at the same time, you know the pressure is substantial, you know, and standing up to that kind of pressure can be scary, and so you know women have to become comfortable with saying no. This is my choice and I know that this is my choice. How do you instill that kind of strength in these women? Because I know you've struggled with that. Where they're scared, they'll avoid, you know, an appointment so that they don't have to deal with the confrontation.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So I can't say that I instill it in all of them. I think some of them it falls on deaf ears because it's not what they want to hear and they still. They probably go on to learn the lesson the hard way. But I'm happy that I feel like I see most of them get it in time and I think again, it's not always just me. It's seen repeatedly how many other women are standing up saying no. Telling them this isn't a big deal. No is a complete sentence. You don't have to defend why you're saying no. You don't have to bring a stack of research. That's what a lot of them feel like. They feel like it's going to be similar to you know the conversations they've heard their friends have had about vaccines or anything else with their pediatricians. They're waiting for them to be told they're stupid, or don't confuse your Google degree with my medical degree, right? And the reality is that the worst thing I think the majority of providers ever do is they tell women if you don't you know this is our policy, if you don't consent to it, we're going to have to drop you as a patient. Fortunately, that's almost always surrounding end of prenatal care, when usually a provider wants to induce or do a lot of tests, and the woman knows you're trying to find something wrong to manufacture an induction. Fortunately, in the US, every state has laws on doctors dropping their patients in prenatal care, and some of them are longer, but the shortest is 28 days and most states, I think, are at 28 days, but some are longer, and so I try to remind women of that. They come in at 40, 41 weeks. My doctor's gonna drop me. I can't do that at this stage. Well, yeah, you can, because your doctor's required by law, if you show up in labor, to still tend to you and deliver your baby. You know, and some of them even part ways with their doctors, because they don't want to go through birth with a doctor that they don't trust anymore and that works out too. They go to the emergency room and whoever's on staff delivers their baby, which is what happens with a lot of women anyway. So I think it's important that they know that there is sometimes a way out and often there's still a way out where you keep your provider, no matter what kind of smoke they're blowing to get you to do what they want you to do.

Speaker 5:

So let's talk about this induction scam, because the reality is it's kind of twofold. First of all, induction has a 50% higher risk of needing a C-section. But you know, dig a little deeper under those floorboards. And of course and I've actually heard this from hospital providers who have been in meeting the biggest hospital institutions in the country where there is no incentive to get a patient in and out, there is an incentive to keep a patient there. So even when they're dealing with things like not to do pregnancy, but like the most of the scars stuff, it's like, well, let's not be too effective at making sure that people don't come down with an infection because we would actually prefer to have some people stay in hospital for a week needing medical procedures, needing surgeries, needing the aftercare from surgeries. That's a whole lot of money that goes to the institutions, that's insurance made, that's the whole. We already know that animal. So if you are recommending or even coercing something like induction that could lead to a 50% higher risk of needing a surgical procedure, then I mean that's not even half a step to untangle the financial incentives there. But let's sort of try to look at you know, you've explained at length the harms that just the inducement alone, even if it didn't lead to a C-section causes. Can you sort of untangle that scam a little bit?

Speaker 7:

Well, I think it starts earlier than most women believe. There are certainly some statistics out there that are alarming, that show even within specific hospitals, certain doctors have far higher C-section rates than others. And the scariest thing is it's just become the norm. Nobody every woman knows women who've had C-sections. All of us know far more than one and they're fine, right, it's like I vaccinated my kid and they're fine. Once you normalize that for a woman, it's very hard to break through and tell her there's a different or a better way, especially if it sounds painful and Not just I'm not just referring to like the physical pain of birth, but, as you said, the pain and anxiety of I'd have to stand up for myself. It would be a fight through my whole pregnancy Advocating for what I want. I'd have to have these confrontational Conversations I don't want to have. So it just feels like the easier path to do, as they say, and I think it also is More comfortable because you feel like you don't need to be responsible for the decisions and there's a certain Weight that is lifted with that. But we know that there is a cost on the end and with C-section the the most common path to it is either induction or Having had a prior C-section, hospitals will often say you have to have one again. And Part of that scam. It's interesting you said you know about hospitals. They don't want to get somebody in and out when it comes to birth. It kind of goes both ways sometimes. Sure, it benefits them if you are going to Stick around for a few days. They usually require women to stay 24 hours. If you've had a vaginal birth, 48 to 72 for a C-section. There are also certain caveats where if you opt out of certain things such as Antibiotics during labor, if you've tested positive for group B strep, most hospitals will say you have to stay for 72 hours to monitor the baby, since you didn't Give prophylactic antibiotics. So there's all sorts of little things they tackle and later to Drag things out and make more profit. But at the same time they do want women coming in and out. They want it to be a consistent cycle. That's part of the kind of grift with induction. They want to be able to control that demographic. A doctor is looking at his schedule and he's got you know however many golf games he's gotten the week that he has to fit in between different Patients who are all due around the same time, or the holidays. There's certainly a reason that induction and C-section rates spike around Thanksgiving and Christmas and they want to manipulate and control that, not just for their own individual circumstances. But Listen, it does make it. Nobody's arguing with the fact that it's easier to run a business if everything's organized and scheduled. That's common sense. But we've gone too far trying to do that with, I think, what you called the most natural thing in human history.

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We are gonna take one quick break and be right back, and I want to talk about the vitamin K scam, because that's a dangerous, scary one.

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So this vitamin K scam is particularly terrifying because they really don't tell parents what is in these shots, and and the idea that you're injecting a neurotoxin into a newborn Carries all sorts of terrible implications, the obvious being why are you injecting a neurotoxin into a newborn With their immune systems are vulnerable and fragile at that stage? You know that. There's all these reasons why this is dangerous, not the least of which being that, as you were explaining before, you know if you're doing something at birth, it's, it's masking a signal. So you have no baseline, you have no natural control group to be able to determine. Well, let's say, hhs wants to look into where we draw a hard line Autism comes to mind, where they draw it in 1989, right down the right down the line. We have no way if we, if we have health agencies that are gonna come in and say, okay, this is where we have this uptick In these, in these symptoms, but you've taken away any control group, you can draw that hard line, as HHS, hhs did in 1989 for autism, but you have no control group from which to be able to identify a culprit and there are a limited number of culprits. Something is causing these issues and these phenomenon. So by taking away a control group, by taking away any Possibility for surveillance of a signal, you're eliminating at potentially an entire generation of downstream harm rectification preemptively.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, it's interesting you bring up autism because I often think of that with vitamin K. There was a study years ago that linked it to childhood leukemia and of course the agencies came after that and down the road kind of wake fielded it said, oh, that's not reputable. Most of the women in the natural birth community, I think, still rely on that study. Just the same they think you know, I don't think it takes long being in that network. Once you start to unravel the pieces of all of the lies within the birth industry, it's sort of a natural flow into the lies of the parenthood world and so it's a good gateway. I think the natural birth community is a good gateway to becoming a more natural minded parent and similar with vitamin K. Another one is Rogan, which is the brand name for anti D. That's a bit of a hot topic right now that I think too many people are not talking about, because it is made from blood plasma and it's given to RH negative women during their pregnancies and right after birth. The long and short of that is that if an RH negative woman has a positive baby and somehow their blood mixes which is really only happens during a trauma or a very medically managed birth, then in theory the woman could become sensitized and in the next pregnancy her blood cells could attack her next baby's blood cells. So they did a similar thing with that. They drew the hard line. They did research on I think don't quote me, I think it was 159 people and only two of them were women. And then they just thought we need this Rogan, we have to give it to every negative mother and we'll never look at it again. And that's a whole massive lie in itself. Without injection and it's particularly pertinent today because, as you know, the donor blood is now contaminated with spike protein from COVID vaccinated people. There's no way to filter that out and they do accept donations from those donors. So in theory, every woman now who gets a Rogan or some of the other names are Bayrow or Winrow. Whoever gets those injections, if they don't want a COVID vaccine, they may very well be receiving the same kind of harmful spike protein. And that is. I bring it up because again it's the same kind of model they're playing over again Now that they have things where they want it with drugs like Rogan, injections like vitamin K. They're never going to go back and do the research and determine oh, we never needed to do this. It's not going to happen. So it's up to parents to self-educate enough and feel comfortable enough opting out, and we have a lot of rational discussions about this in the birth group. I think most women are of the mind that they wonder how we all survived before it if we've always been born deficient. There are some good prevailing theories out there. I think even at one point Dr Sears came up with one and just said you know, there may be a reason we're all born with low vitamin K. There is limited data on that, but there are some strong potential explanations, such as wanting a baby who's passing through a birth canal. In their head and brain Everything is being squished and their platelets in their skull are all being compressed. Maybe you don't want the baby to clot as easily there's. For some reason, none of that was considered in the past when they decided we need to prevent this. And, as you said, the injection is. It's not just a supplement. It's far, far more than a baby would ever need, and we don't know what harms that is causing, and I don't expect anyone to ever go looking now.

Speaker 5:

It's also alarming when you consider that historically, when you have individuals who have been, who have had a bad reaction to a vaccine or a medical intervention, usually you can identify that if they're sensitive and they have a bad reaction, that the next time it is an exponential they're more likely to have a bad reaction to the next one, and the next one, and the next one. So the idea that we are setting up literally at birth you don't know if the infant had a bad reaction, so you can identify whether what the culprit would be, and then, let's say, at the six month schedule or at the nine month schedule or at any other point during the schedule, you're completely creating the foundation for a particularly sensitive individual to then have a repeated and in fact exponentially worse reaction to possible future vaccines which then wouldn't be correlated or identified as having been set up with pathogenic priming model early on. Dr James Weiler talks a lot about. You know Dr James Weiler talks a lot about. You know the toxicity and it was the study that he did with Gary, with Paul Thomas, that shows that you know these. These children are in not just aluminum toxicity but 100% aluminum toxicity for the entire first year of life. So the idea that we don't go back and identify that this, this baseline that we're giving on the first day of birth, could set this up, it just seems absolutely ludicristic to me. Why wouldn't you want to, you know, look into this, just like wouldn't? Why isn't anyone investigating, as you mentioned? You know, how did we survive before this? If the if babies having this hemorrhagic disorder or bleeding out is suddenly happening at an increased rate which I don't know that it is, but if it were, why is no one investigating that? What has changed in the newborn procedure and when did this phenomenon occur, start occurring with greater numbers? Shouldn't, shouldn't, we be looking into this?

Speaker 7:

Yeah, no, I agree with you. I don't know if there's a pinpointed time when it changed. I think it has been a constant evolution of managing women. Not to sound like too much of a feminist, but there's no shortage of data that supports women's health care is poorer than men's and while it's significant gains over the last 50 years, the introduction really of women into women's health care, female practitioners hasn't helped as much as we hoped. I'm sure we all have friends who think differently than we do and maybe are a little more mainstream. I know I do and I can tell you, having known, you know tens of thousands of birth practitioners, probably at this point, that most of them are mainstream. I don't know if that's always ingrained into them in medical school alone either, because I've seen even plenty of midwives who go that way, who are more medically minded. There are plenty of home birth midwives out there even who are recommending every vaccine. They want all of these women right now to get their RSV and their COVID shots. So I don't know where it all started and where it came from. I just know that it's like the snowball that keeps going and it's a cultural thing as much as it is anything based on data. A lot of doctors I've ever talked to don't even always know the data right. They're getting memos from the CDC, they're getting emails hey, don't say this anymore, say this instead. And they don't question it. They don't. To their defense, many of them don't have the time, especially in an obstetric practice. They've got their appointments booked every 10, 15 minutes and any woman who's been pregnant and had a hospital birth before knows what it's like to see one of those OBs and you're going to wait at all of your appointments for a long time to see the doctor for 10 minutes. It's just this thing that keeps snowballing and getting bigger, and what relieves me is that I see the other side, the people like us and the natural birthing women and the parents who are waking up and wanting to research. That snowball is growing too. I don't know if COVID is going to be the point at which they converge the way that we hoped, but I know there are a lot more open eyes now. Things are so different. The birth circle actually we just passed our 11-year anniversary last month and it's drastically different than it used to be. These days, when someone makes a post about vitamin K or wanting to know any of the you know hepatitis B, any of these things we're talking about. They'll probably get 300 comments and maybe 10 of them will be someone who is in favor, and it used to be probably less than half opted out. It's just parents are waking up but, like I said, I think a lot of them still sadly have to learn the hard way first. And hey, I'm a vaccine and reparent myself, so I know what that's like. I see the same thing in the birth community. They're going through this system and in some way they're being harmed. Whether they're left with an actual injury or they didn't get the birth they wanted or whatever it is, Something is happening to them and they know they're never doing what they did before again.

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Speaker 10:

This is Sean Morgan with Patriot TV. I'm here with a patriot that we're showcasing, jeffrey Meston, who's a lifelong first responder and he's with the First Responder 9-1-1 Foundation, helping support first responders with PTSD. So, jeffrey, what do first responders go through and how does your foundation support them?

Speaker 11:

Well, thank you for that. Being a first responder, whether your law, fire, ems or dispatch you're exposed to many terrible things, and our suicide rate is 50% higher than all regular civilians. It's really based on the horrific things that we see on a regular basis traumatic accidents, suicides, homicides, drownings, cardiac arrest. What the foundation does is they help raise money to be able to pay for the costly but very much needed treatment that we received once we're diagnosed with PTSD.

Speaker 10:

Right, and so these challenge coins that people can get, they can actually give them to a first responder they know as a form of a thank you and helps your foundation raise funds. So if one of you wants to get one or more challenge coins, you can go to firstresponder911.org and get them there. Thank you, patriots, and thank you all the first responders out there for your service. We're going to support you, god bless.

Speaker 5:

So I know we're not going to untangle the HEPB problem in one show. It probably requires, you know, years of data. That's going to come into this. But can you talk a little bit about the broad strokes of you know this? Really dangerous, unnecessary, absolutely harmful in every way? Part that really? I mean there is zero reason that I can think of and, like you pointed out before, I have a Google degree, not a medical degree, but it makes zero sense to me why this is even part of the conversation. Can you talk a little bit about this monster? Yeah?

Speaker 7:

So HEPB came into the picture because the farm manufacturers wanted to target the I would say more of an impoverished demographic. They wanted to go after drug users and injection drug users and prostitutes to allegedly reduce transmission of hepatitis BI. I don't pretend to know why they changed to babies, other than their demographic wasn't fulfilling their needs. Prostitutes, as it turns out, and drug users are not great patients. They don't come in for well checks, they don't line up to get vaccines, so they're not a very profitable demographic. Much of them don't have insurance. The kickbacks weren't there. But it's two separate things, right, recognizing we didn't pick a good demographic and then choosing newborns. Look like the best one of everyone. So they targeted newborns so that their vaccine didn't go to waste and it worked. It's one of those things, like you said, women don't know what they don't know and it's almost like once you say it out loud to them and you ask a mother who's never done a drug in her life and has no STDs and none of these issues, you ask her well, why do you think your child needs a vaccination? Or couldn't they get this vaccination when they're older and they're sexually active? If they become a drug user, right Once they really see the statistics on that and the likelihood of their child ever contracting hepatitis B if they don't become a prostitute or a drug user. A light bulb goes off, but before that it's just again. It's so normalized they don't think about it. Sometimes I honestly wish that we still named diseases after something that was more on brand, because there are various types of hepatitis. They do different things. Some are more harmful than others. Most parents similar to polio or anything else they don't even understand what hepatitis actually is. It just sounds scary and vaccines sound inherently safe. They trust them. They think it is almost like taking a vitamin, like it will protect you if you need it and it can't do anything bad, so we might as well give all of them to you. It takes a lot of unpacking for that to happen, and I think that's a good part of our community is because women come into it often wanting truth about epidurals or do they have to do the gestational diabetes test and all of these routine prenatal things, and just because they're in that pot with these other women, they inadvertently end up learning all of the vaccine horror stories and they learn the truth about hepatitis B. So it brings them to the table for a conversation they probably wouldn't have been willing to have. But they start to learn to trust all of these women and think well, if they're telling me the truth about vitamin K and they're telling me the truth about the epidural and they all sound just like me and they all had a bad botched birth like me and got tricked into being induced, like me maybe I can trust them on vaccines too, and hepatitis B, because we're a birth group. Hepatitis B is obviously the biggest vaccine we talk about other than now COVID and flu and RSV are given to pregnant women. I would say almost all natural birthing women I know don't get prenatal vaccines, even though some of them still vaccinate their kids. It's interesting but yeah, they just don't trust it. But it's like they need someone to say it to them out loud and make them actually think for once critically about why do we give this? Doesn't your baby deserve the same kind of rights to informed consent? Don't you deserve the same information before you consent to it for hepatitis B as you would want for the epidural? And it's probably a little bit of an easier sell to them because they've already woken up to the truth that while the hospitals and doctors have lied to me about everything else.

Speaker 5:

Right, and also the idea. As you said, people have this kind of warm fuzzy when they hear they're like, oh, vaccines, safe and effective, Okay. But actually, when it comes to this particular vaccine and some are tested more than others, as we know they've criminally done away with the animal testing. They've you know, covid is a whole other just set of nonsense with the testing. They've done away with animal trials. They've done away with placebo. Control group vaccines do not work. They're the only medical product that doesn't require placebo trials. What is particularly alarming about this one is that, even knowing that most of them have these exemptions and these liability shields and everything else from their testing, this hepat B vaccine actually has even less testing. There were two trials one was four days, one was five days. Again, you talk a little bit about the sort of I call it romper room science. You know that went into this product, even when it was marketed for adults. And then also, can you talk a little bit about some of the potential downstream harms that we are looking at for, just I mean, infants are obviously vulnerable in terms of immune systems, in terms of brain development, in terms of brain blood barrier. All of these issues Can you talk a little bit about that with regards to this vaccine.

Speaker 7:

So I think the biggest thing with hepatitis B is obviously, like you said, it's given on the first day, so you never have a baseline. You know, I hear some parents who have vaccinated children who have autism or any number of other diagnoses, and they say, well, he's been like this since birth. Like how do you know? How do we know that anymore we don't. I can't even say that with certainty with my son. And I think that once you point out to people, hey, here's the issue with vaccines it's not the virus that's harmful, it's not the virus that sets them apart. They're all just sort of different flavors of the same drug, or the same poison, rather. Which, namely, is aluminum? There's certainly, like you said, polysorbate 80 and we have no idea the effect of fetal cell lines and all of these other things sprinkled into them, especially animal DNA. But shooting a child up with a neurotoxic metal on the first day of their life, it's going to instantly inflame their brain. You don't know your child at that point, you don't know their cues, you don't know if it's normal for them to be as sleepy as they are, to be crying and wailing like they are, to develop skin rashes or all sorts of oh my goodness, the number of skin things that happen these days, in the first couple of weeks of newborn life, is alarming. Wasn't always that way and we just have no explanation for them. Even in cleaner households, where there's not pets, there's not fragrance, we're still seeing the same things, and nobody wants to look at vitamin K or Hep B. I'm sorry. What was your second question you wanted me to elaborate on?

Speaker 5:

I would love to hear what are the possible downstream harms and obviously it would take us 22 encyclopedic volumes to get into all of them, but some of these potential downstream harms. I mean, as we've been discussing, aluminum is the adjuvant and is a neurotoxin. It also being an adjuvant, it creates an allergic reaction. By definition. That's what it's designed to do to make your body have that reaction to whatever it is that's around it at that time, but you're not in control of whatever else might be around. That's why we look at all of these sudden allergies to all of these things that kids have nowadays and we also see a crazy uptick in autoimmune disorders, which are essentially that reaction. Possibly we could be looking at what the body's reaction is to this adjuvant, to this neurotoxic adjuvant. Can you talk a little bit about, you know, the potential downstream harms that we could be looking at with not just these vaccines but by specifically giving these vaccines at birth?

Speaker 7:

I think you answered a lot of that. But the reality is you know any host of autoimmune diseases, any kind of inflammation we're going to see. The hardest part is we know it doesn't always happen right away, or at least it's not symptomatic right away. We're not seeing it on the outside and it's easier for a parent to recognize when those issues appear when their kid is 18 months right, then it is when their child is 18 hours old. We have no data on no good data on the real correlation between even babies who've just been given Hep B and SIDS. We don't know what those rates are. Same with allergies, and the prevailing allergy I feel like I see in younger babies is not even topical, it's a topic. It's through the mother's breast milk. There's so many babies now that are intolerant to any variety of things their moms are eating and it's a very stressful experience for the breastfeeding mom. Postpartum is hard enough and you're not sleeping and most women do not have enough support and care so that she can just sit around and really breastfeed 24, seven and so to have your baby also be harmed by your breast milk or throwing it up constantly or developing a rash or whatever the issues are for that mom to have to go through a serious elimination diet at the same time figure out is it dairy, is it this, is it that? And it takes weeks to get each thing out of her system. Most of them give up, and so then you have all of these babies being put on formula and usually have to be specialty formulas that are still corn syrup based and just full of synthetic junk. So I think in terms of downstream harms, we have to look at kind of the cumulative effects of where that starts and where it ends, because it causes such a dominant effect of other things. And people can say, well, we're grasping at straws or it's all theory, but until they give us data, that's all we have. And there are so many issues in the family unit like that, like failure to breastfeed, that we never talk about. We talk about autoimmune disease or how it's going to cause autism, and I think we're all pretty in our community, we're pretty well versed on that now, but we don't talk about all of the side effects that splinter off of it and how that's gonna change that child's life just because they got two weeks of breast milk instead of the four years mom planned.

Speaker 5:

Right, it is a deep and wide web. We have a little less than a minute left. Can you please tell my audience where everybody can find you with Informed Choice, maryland in the first circle, where can everybody find you?

Speaker 7:

Okay, sure, informed Choice Maryland is easy because it's informedchoicemerlincom and there's a sign-up and a contact sheet there. Obviously it's best for Maryland residents, but we keep them apprised of all the bills dropping all the legislation. We have a really bad constitutional amendment this year that would allow any kind of medical procedure under the reproductive umbrella for anyone of any age, without parental consent. First state, I believe to have that. And in the birth world you can find me at DannyLashercom. My website will look entirely different than that in a couple days because I'm in a transition period design-wise, but that can link them to the Facebook group and the childbirth ed membership and all the good things about trying to learn how to birth naturally and become a more natural-minded mom.

Speaker 5:

Danielle, thank you so much for joining us and keep doing everything that you're doing. Really appreciate all of your knowledge, thank you. Thank you, sophia, it's good to be here. I'm ending today's show with a call to action. This show is called Fourth Branch Fourth Branch as in of government. For those of you unfamiliar with the inception of my show, it was born out of a desire to give voice to that which the legacy media censored, suppressed, manipulated or otherwise controlled in order to control the narrative and, ultimately, the people. I'm sure I do not have to explain to anyone watching this program how government use of a corporation to control civilians, especially when it comes to the media, actually defines a First Amendment violation. Government agencies are in control of everything, from what you watch to what you put in your body, to what your physician is allowed to prescribe or recommend as a treatment. During the course of the last few years, our constitutional rights have been systematically and incrementally stripped right under our noses, using the legacy media and the TNI as the spear tip. Make no mistake, your monetary freedoms are next. Just look at the CBDCs. People always ask me what we can do to stop this totalitarian takeover happening in real time in our country and how we might put an end to the creeping tyranny. My answer is always the same no one is coming to save us, and we must put aside our desire for easy luxury and create a parallel option ourselves. One of the most important ways in which we can create infrastructure is to create our own legacy. Media, knowledge and information is not only power, it is everything. It is why I have this show, and it was and is my intent to solidly and steadfastly put out a counter narrative in whatever way I am able, for as long as I am able. An ignorant and indoctrinated society is a vulnerable one. An informed society is steadfast. It may sound hyperbolic for me to say that this is the very core of our freedoms, but I don't believe that it is. Our freedom to communicate and share freely information, opinions, ideas. Our freedom to assemble and come together to speak out and stand up against that with which we disagree, even when it comes to our own government, is a fundamental pillar of our democracy. For far too long, we've actually been funding the deep state and paying for content that subverts our values. Companies like Disney and Netflix have been caught red-handed sexualizing our children and promoting a toxic, woke agenda. A First Amendment lawsuit against the TNI is currently going to the Supreme Court, and presidential candidate Robert Kennedy himself has a lawsuit against Google and YouTube. Never mind that Big Pharma funded advertising is one of the heads of this Hydra. The entire corporateocracy is not followed by. It is led by the media. The only way we combat this is to create our own legacy media. I have an important call to action for all of you out there who understand what a critical role the media plays in the evolution of this power grab. What if we defunded this agenda by defunding the legacy media and funding instead our our movement with TVs, shows and movies that promote our values? That's exactly what my colleagues at Patriot TV are doing, and they need your support to make it happen. You and your family will be able to enjoy entertaining movies, podcasts, documentaries and news at Patriot TV for less than the cost of Netflix. We are looking to create a one-stop shop, and you'll be able to access the content of some of the biggest names in conservative media all in one place for the price of a latte. It's vital that we all join now, because I believe that we can beat Hollywood if everyday Americans get in the game. You can go to Patriot TV slash pages slash Sophia that's my name, s-o-f-i-a right now to support our our movement and to get access to all of our content and even help drive the demand for more. I sincerely hope you take a minute to check this out. It's not prohibitive and the effect we can have is unlimited. Please go to Patriot TV slash pages slash Sophia now to see what we are building and to join our movement. This isn't about labeling or branding yourself conservative. It's about stepping away from the cliff of crazy, loony tunes liberal lost the plot woke extremists and they are extremists and creating a common-sense place for common-sense people with common-sense values to watch common-sense content. Despite what the legacy media tells you, we are the majority. I really hope you join us. That link again Patriot TV slash pages slash Sophia. Together we can do this. Please click on the link below or use the QR code. Thank you.

Childbirth Scams and Risks Explained
Women's Empowerment in Birth Choices
(Cont.) Women's Empowerment in Birth Choices
Controversies in Hospital Birth Practices
Tax Issues and First Responder Support
Hepatitis B Vaccination Concerns and Harm
Patriot TV, Defund Legacy Media