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January 25, 2024 Episode 918
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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Making Sense of the Madness. I am Jason Bermas and for the next hour, we're going to spend time with the founder of the America Project, patrick Byrne. It's been a long road since the election of 2020. He's got a lot to share with us. He's also the author of the Deep Rig. Buckle up and get ready to make sense of the madness. The election season is underway and the primaries have started. Donald Trump seems to be the clear favorite in this Republican race. Really, nikki Haley the only propped up opposition at this point, dominating in Iowa and now taking New Hampshire. I was first introduced to Patrick Byrne, the former CEO of Overstockcom, through that very crooked 2020 election. Really, he has been on the scene breaking all sorts of news and exposing the fraudulent 2020 election for what it was. It is my pleasure to have him on the program. Thank you so much for joining us, patrick. Now you've been-.

Speaker 2:

Jason, what an honor.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, thank you sir. I mean again, you've really. You're one of the few people out there that's put their money where their mouth is. You know you're not getting rich on coming out and telling the truth about a crooked election, far from it. You've taken attacks time and time again in the media. So, for those that aren't familiar, what is your story? How did you come into this arena and what's that journey been like? Now through not just one election cycle, but now on the way to the 2024 cycle?

Speaker 3:

Well, my real journey begins I'm going to tilt this up a moment. My real journey begins back when I built Overstock. I was a public company CEO and I became aware of a bunch of illegality on Wall Street and I went to see the government about it and it wasn't a theory. I had people asking me to take part. I would you know, when you're a public company CEO, you're kind of out there in the mix. You're out there with hedge funds and bankers and journalists and SEC officials, and I had. I was taken to dinner after a year or so and people got to know me and started having offers along the lines of hey, kid, we could make a lot of money together. If you want to play ball, thrown at me, and I started figuring out what they were asking me to do, and I went to the government and tried to explain Do you realize what a bunch of no-good nicks have taken over Wall Street? And the government was like this and that's. This is 04, 05. I've started becoming aware of just how captured, how corrupted everything was, and so that's really when this all started. I thought that we were there by the election of 2020. I thought we were just in the place we're going to be able to fix it. And then the election was so dirty. So to me my involvement since the election was sort of an expansion of those personal efforts since 04, 05.

Speaker 1:

So now, reflecting back on 2020 and obviously a lot of the COVID 1984 nightmare enabled what would go down during this election cycle I'm not so sure we don't have something happen like that, or maybe worse, in 2024 and maybe get a repeat, because when you look at Donald Trump, he's never been more popular. You know, you recently had even Dean Phillips, a Democrat, just a few days ago during the New Hampshire primary. Say he was having an event across the street from a Donald Trump event he never been to one. He saw a bunch of people in line around the corner and he went over and talked to him and he said they were intelligent, they were articulate, he's like I talked to like 50 of them. My party is absolutely delusional in their representation of this and yet somehow to switch over. Well, so all I'm saying is somehow they were able to take the 2020 election when it was so apparent there was fraud. The legal system was constantly going with judgments of no standing, refusing to look at the evidence to even rule on it. Why will this cycle be different, or do you believe it will?

Speaker 3:

Well, it will not be different in the sense of they are definitely going to try to steal it again. They have the presidency, so they've up their efforts. They've institutionalized it. They've institutionalized it in the postal system, but this time, I think Americans were still operating on a trust theory last time and the Republicans had really fallen asleep at the switch. They did nothing. They had all kinds of powers they were not exercising. Did you know that everybody knows about? Mark Elias went around and filed all these cases? We have access to his hard drive and his cases on it and, as I recall, the number was something like 750 actions he took in different counties in the US in 2020. Of them, he was unopposed and like 700. So the Republican Party only showed up in 50. The Republican Party let all that, let 2020 happen. Now we have activists. We have citizens. Pardon me, I'm hiccuping. We're personally involved. We have taken the training. There's gonna be much more inspection this year, much more involvement from citizen observers.

Speaker 1:

So let's also talk about the legal battles that Trump is facing right now, because I also believe that if he had walked away from politics, they would have just continued to try to smear him in the media and smear his legacy. Go after even the America first supporters, but not criminally go after Trump. Obviously, there's been a concerted political effort across the board to bring these illegitimate indictments in court against Trump. Now, recently, you had a judge uphold the gag order on Trump in the Jack Smith case, and I think that it was actually extremely smart of Trump not to participate in any of these debates, if only for these gag orders and these extra level events. What are your thoughts on these court cases? Because, as illegitimate as they are, as we've seen what these people will do if they were to put Trump in prison which I think is likely in at least one of these cases it changes the country forever. And at the same time, obviously, the opposition party has looked for every reason to try to get them off the ballot, not only the regular presidential race, but try to get them off the primary ballot. So what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3:

Well, my thoughts are first of all, it's now the left has stripped their mask of democracy and they've gone full goon, full authoritarian. No covering it up, no denying it. Trump got indicted for any conversation with the Ukrainian president, suggesting hey, I understand you're looking into this Biden corruption when you get to finish up that investigation. He got indicted for even that. The possible political unsavoriness of saying that about a political opponent. Here you have that political opponent and chasing him, chasing him, got prosecutions, going all over the country, chasing, chasing and nobody, nobody. You know that, doesn't. So the for the left, for socialism, george Orwell, pointed out that being a socialist takes so much energy to maintain the double think about things, your two sets of standards of evidence and argument and everything. So I think the cases themselves are largely silly. The New York cases silly as can be. You know, he borrowed some money. He paid it back. He's a big boy, deutsche Bank, from whom he borrowed it as a real estate department in New York of 35 people. They went out and looked at the building, they did their calculations, they know what it's worth, and so it's just that whole thing is silly. The Georgia thing, the well, the J6 and the J6, the Jack Smith stuff is J6 and the document Miss Hamlin case. Now, the J6 case is silly and I've offered to take all the heat for that Many times publicly. The DOJ should put me up. I'm the guy who pulled all that together and they should blame me and I will take the heat for all of it. Love to love to face off in a DC courtroom and I will take responsibility for all the J6. And I've offered that many times to the DOJ. No, no, taking up so far the Georgia case, I will say that the document case has a little bit to it because it turns out Trump was okay to possess those documents. He had a DOE clearance, but he did some things with the documents and flashed them and maybe moving them around and hid them that they can make beefs about. And then the Georgia case. Well, I'll tell you what I can tell you that there are now. Well, the Georgia case is silly and the woman I think her name was Misty who took the image off of Coffee County is going to prove to be a national hero. Coffee County was hacked and I think we'll be able to prove that in a court of law in Georgia. So I welcome if they go all the way to bring Trump to Georgia. We're going to. He's going to have a chance to prove that it was hacked and I think we can prove that now. In fact, I think by Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day, this is all going to have a new character to it because the evidence is going to. By Valentine's Day, you're going to be seeing evidence out there in the world.

Speaker 1:

So I want to get to that.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

No, I want to get to that but you know, you started off talking about the Biden, really the impeachment of Trump. Through what you know, when I looked at Biden, for instance, and I had reported on the fact that he was bragging in front of the CFR, that he got a prosecutor fired that was looking into barisma, son of a bitch and laughing, there was absolutely no way in hell, patrick, that I thought that that moment and that issue would in turn turn into an impeachment of Donald Trump. And it did. Now, at the same time he beat that impeachment. But that's never criminally looked at. It's not just Hunter Biden, it's not just, you know, barisma. I mean in barisma alone, you could look at the nepotism and corruption via John Kerry who, I would argue, is running much more of our foreign policy than Joe Biden ever could at this point, seeing that he's dementia ridden and you know Kerry's overseas with the Davos crowd, with the, the UN crowd, et cetera.

Speaker 3:

So my point is this good, good. Blinken is the secretary. My point is Kerry has a lot of money. Well, I think.

Speaker 1:

Biden's not running anything and obviously, you know, kerry's been around right now and these globalists have never had more power in implementing their agenda across the board and clearly he's working with that agenda right. I mean, he was just out there in Davos bragging that even if somebody like Trump got in, he didn't say Trump by name, he said anyone politician cannot stop this agenda. So so my point being you know you talked about the documents case. I think that would be a key case for them to try to get Trump on, because if they did, joe Biden has a much worse document case. But then they just wouldn't prosecute Joe Biden. They'd let him step down and say you know, we don't want to put the country through this again. Hey, I mean, we're in a very weird 2024 spot, go ahead. I'm sorry, I went off on a little rant there, I'll allow you.

Speaker 3:

No, you're correct, it's all as just as corrupt as you say. But you know about the whistleblower case we got in against Jack Smith in December.

Speaker 1:

I don't. But you know what? Let's take a break before we get to the Jack Smith whistleblower case. We're going to take a break. We're going to come back with Patrick Byrne riveting discussion 2020 into 2024. Can we take on this corrupt Leviathan and win back after this with more making sense of the madness?

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Speaker 1:

And we are back with Patrick Byrne and Patrick, you just wanted to expound upon this whistleblower case with Jack Smith, one of the lead prosecutors in these cases. Tell us about it.

Speaker 3:

Yes, jack Smith, before he was over here as a special prosecutor, was over in Europe as the American prosecutor in the international court of justice. There he was blackmailing people and we have a number of whistleblowers from across Europe that say what he was doing was sending his goon out to somebody in Eastern Europe and saying we know that back in 1997 you murdered two people in a village in Serbia and Jack Smith is going to bring an indictment for a war crime. Or you put $400,000 in a briefcase. I take it back to Jack, all your problems go away. They were taken from $400,000 to $9,000,000. Bribes $7,000,000 to $9,000,000 were paid through Bitcoin. They tried to shake down a head of state for $100,000. We have affidavits, we have techs, we have all kinds of things. That's one thing to know. The second thing to know is 18 months ago, these Europeans approached the DOJ trying to bring their attention, trying to explain to them what Jack Smith was doing. This was April of well, 2022. So it's almost it's getting on two years and they got pushed around by the DOJ until they ended up on a phone call with somebody that they thought was back in Southern District of New York. As they had it, they had this phone call with a guy. I'm just blocking out his name for a second, I can find it. Anyway, they had this phone call the guy. It turns out he wasn't in SDNY, he's at the Hague and he's Jack Smith's number two. So these whistleblowers to the DOJ imagine being a whistleblower to the DOJ coughing up. You know what's really going on and you find out you're doing it to the number two of the guy you're ratting on. So anyway, so we know that because they taped the Zoom calls, there's a 90 minute Zoom call and that brings you to those two claims we have. We're solid on the third claim is only an inference, but I believe that Jack Smith was called home and Merrick Garland told him you, son of a gun, we know what you've been doing in Europe. You're gonna whether we're gonna put you in jail for 30 years or you're gonna come home and prosecute Donald Trump. And that's why, a month after all of this whistleblowing stuff was given to the DOJ, he was recalled from Europe to the US not to be prosecuted but to be given this incredibly important indictment of a former president, which would explain some real odd things about the indictment. You know Jack Smith is pursuing odd legal theories. Normally a Rico case is like Jason, I tell you hey, you got to rub out Luigi for me and you do it. So it's not just a murder. The cooperation makes it Rico In Jack Smith's world. The cooperation that makes Donald Trump guilty of Rico is he asked Mark Meadows for someone's phone number and Mark Meadows gave him the phone number. So there's the cooperation that says this was a mafia. It's, I mean, really novel legal theories. Why would a prosecutor bring such crazy cases? Well, maybe because he's got a gun to his head himself. He's being blackmailed for the fact that he's been a blackmailer in Europe. This is very well documented. It's up on a site called Deep Capture and you should go to Deep Capture. You can read the Jack Smith whistleblower. It's all been filed, was filed with the federal government in early December, but three or four days later. That's when Jack Smith scrambled and went to the Supreme Court and tried to accelerate things. We think that's because the ground is dissolving underneath his feet from this case. He's under investigation himself now from this case.

Speaker 1:

So when we're looking at him blackmailing people overseas, you say that he's got a number two. Where is he laundering this blackmailed money into? Does he have shell accounts and corporations? Because if we're talking about somewhere between $400,000 and $9 million, obviously he's going to have to have some high level cooperation or kind of dummy units set up, correct.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we're here, you know, but they were getting cash. There was an account it was a discussion of a $50 million black account that they were funding stuff like this. I'm trying to find the guy's name. Who was the name of his bag?

Speaker 1:

The STNY.

Speaker 3:

Alan Tigger. Alan Tigger was the name of the guy who was his number two, and when the whistleblowers went to the DOJ in DC and then were sent to the Spanish Embassy and then the Spanish Embassy got to miss phone call with Alan Tigger, who turns out not to be from internal affairs and not to be from STNY, but turns out to be Jack Smith's number two.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. So now you said this got filed in December. When is the public going to hear more about this?

Speaker 3:

Well, it was funny. We filed this with the Inspector General Inspector General of the DOJ, the intelligence community, the CIA, the State Department and a General Washington DC Office of Inspector General that existed General Federal Inspector General and we got a letter back after about two weeks from the DOJ, from the Inspector General's office, but it was an unsigned letter and it said these allegations concern what Jack Smith was doing in Europe, at the Hague. He wasn't an American employee at the time, so this is outside our jurisdiction. Well, that's a little bit like if you went to the DEA with evidence that one of their top, most important officials was actually Pablo Escobar and the DEA said, well, our job is, you know, the Inspector General. The DEA said, well, we inspect what a guy does once he's hired, but we don't look into anything before. That. It'd be a silly answer. It'd be a silly answer. That's the answer the DOJ has just made about Jack Smith. In addition, he was being paid by American tax dollars while he was over there. He was on loan from the DOJ and if he was really a new hire, then there's a whole record of his new hire that shows he was polygraphed and all kinds of things. I'm sure they skipped. I'm sure they didn't do any of that, so they're scramps. So they gave a very inadequate answer and the last I heard the other four have been refusing the answer we're using. They have to, by law, give an answer, but what's odd is the DOJ's answer came unsigned.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. That's extremely odd, is that? Does that even make it an official DOJ document, if nobody will put their signature on it saying this is their official response?

Speaker 3:

No, to be an official response that has to have a signature, Otherwise just a piece of paper. So they're violating federal law by refusing to respond to whistleblower filing.

Speaker 1:

Well, how can you follow up on that? I mean, do you now with that in the arena right now? Do you now have to take it to kind of a civil court and sue them for more information? Is that what this is becoming Kind of like, a will it become kind of a circular suit where you're going to actually have to take them to court to sue them to get this stuff?

Speaker 3:

We're getting a federal judge. We're filing with a federal judge to get the federal judge to order them to respond.

Speaker 1:

Okay, well, I'm sure when you do respond, hopefully it'll be at least covered in the alternative media. I don't know that it'll be covered in the mainstream media, and therein lies the problem. I mean, is there any legitimacy to some kind of a criminal prosecution against a Jack Smith, or even whispers of that criminal prosecution on networks you know as big as Fox, while these Trump indictments are happening? And basically that's the focus.

Speaker 3:

Well, our media is so captured and corrupt at this point. You know, there's a mountain of evidence that 2020 was hacked and all these journalists can say is baseless, baseless, it's baseless, la, la, la la. I don't want to hear anything else. It's baseless. They're like little children. So they have. Really. I think this is the death of traditional media, because when the truth gets out, it's going to get out in a way that is going to make traditional media just such an irrelevancy that everyone's it should be, it should be the stake through the heart of that. You know, someone's got to drag this beast behind the barn and kill it with an axe, and I think that's going to happen when the truth gets out, and it's very close to getting out.

Speaker 1:

Well, I want to talk about how that truth is going to get out on the other side of this break, and I want to discuss other court cases out there that may expose what happened in 2020. It is making sense of the madness. I'm Jason Burmuss and we'll be back after this.

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Speaker 1:

And we are back with Patrick Byrne and Patrick time and time again. Unfortunately, I see the legal system failing us this recent Supreme Court decision that federal agents can come in and tear down, basically walls and barbed wire that has been built to keep people out. The decision in the Missouri case, where you knew you had social media colluding with government. The fact that they suspended that ruling until it's heard by a higher court that's a bad decision. The no standing cases in looking at the 2020 election, what legal routes have been at least semi successful? Are there some cases out there where we may get the truth about the 2020 election? Where are they? And if those do fail us, how do we continue to try to get the truth out?

Speaker 3:

There are absolutely cases that are bringing the truth out. In Georgia, for example, there's cases well, we just saw what happened on Friday with Halderman, the professor of political science. Of this stuff, the leading professor is Alex Halderman. He's in Michigan and he testified in Georgia and a federal court run by Amy Tonberg, who's a liberal Democrat, her sister of Nina Tonberg of NPR. So I have to say, judge Tonberg, federal judge, decided to have a hearing and look in and hear about these machines and she had testimony and Alex Halderman hacked a dominion basically a dominion voting booth, the tablet you would find in a voting booth. He hacked one of those and everyone's making a huge deal out of it. It's great. Alex has not shown a lot of integrity. He knows that 2020 was hacked but because he's a Democrat, he's been hiding out. But now he's back in the game and he doesn't want to talk about 2020, but he showed what could be done, that these systems were worthless. Well, that was, I would say, on the Richter scale of election fraud, what he showed. Let's say it's 2.0. It's nice. I'm glad he did it. It's making all these waves and the judge's mind was blown. There were all these headlines, but there's an 8.7 coming. That was a 2.0. There's an 8.7 on the Richter scale coming. Before we get out of the primary season, there's an 8.7. Before we get to the convention I'll put it that way there's an 8.7 on the Richter scale coming. That shows that in a much bigger way, how corrupt these are.

Speaker 1:

A way that's so big.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead. I'm sorry, Paul.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying when you're talking about these. First of all, I've been against these machines since their inception, when they started to bring them in. Really, in the 2004 presidential elections, black box voting was out there Used to be a Democrat issue. I still remember when the Simpsons parodied the Obama-McCain voting booth. Where he keeps trying to vote for Obama, it goes to McCain. It's a big joke that these machines don't work. Now the joke's on us that we can never audit them. When you have machines that have their own proprietary software, they have literally zero audits. You can say that they're not hooked to the internet, but believe me, you can find a way. Even if they have a USB port, they're that much more hackable. Again, without any kind of real audits, these machines should be illegal in the first place. A lot of people focused in on the Jimmy Carter Baker commission and their discussion of mail-in ballots and their corruption, but they gave two press conferences. The same thing is in their report. It was just as dangerous, if not more dangerous, with these machines. Jimmy Carter back then was only calling for a 3% audit of these machines. Personally, I think 3% is way too low, but if we got an honest audit of even 3% of the machines used in 2020,. I do believe it would blow the lid off of what actually occurred. How do we fight that system that it's really embedded to protect these voting machines?

Speaker 3:

We only have one more chance. It's 10 months from now. We're being taken over in a soft go. We don't get out of it. This year, the United States is dangling from a thread. It may be lost already, but, as any chance, it's what happens in 10 months. It's a freaking miracle. In my mind, we made it to here. If you'd asked me or General Flynn in late January 2021, what are the odds? We made it here three years. Well, I shouldn't speak for him, but I would put the chances in single digits. I didn't think we were going to make it to the next election. Maybe 50-50 we would. This is a color revolution and these have never drifted on for years. The longest is like four or five months. This was all supposed to be over by June of 2021. Remember, the Democrats came in with a plan to federalize election law so they could always deal to admit somewhere between 10 and 40 million new citizens and the Supreme Court to sprinkle holy water on it. They knew what they were doing. They knew they were taking over through a soft coup and had to fix it, so they never had to face any repercussions. Kyle Schwab came out just a few months ago and said 2024 is the last year of elections. After that, elections are obsolete. We have AI that can tell you what would have been the best choice for you and choose for you. Really, it all comes down to 2024. Your grandchildren, your grandchildren's grandchildren, are calling through the ether telling you if you don't get things fixed now, we topple into a new equilibrium point that there is no. The lights go out on freedom. The last time that happened, they were out for a thousand years. I want to remind people you have to get. People need to get involved right now.

Speaker 1:

Do you believe that's what will happen if, say, they do put Trump in prison? That would be unprecedented in itself in this country. Really, these prosecutions in themselves are unprecedented. They go after the guy that didn't commit enough war crimes. Meanwhile, guys like Bush and Clinton and Obama are still praised out there. There's some of the biggest demons and criminals about if they put him in jail. Is that the end of the country If they don't let him run? I know that Roger Stone I remember when I talked to Roger about this over a year and a half ago. He's like well, you can still run from prison. I just think that the visual even if you put him in jail for a short period of time and he was able to run and win it's just such a bizarre moment for America. Do we get through it?

Speaker 3:

Well, if they put him in prison, I think his odds go up. I think his support goes up because basically everyone who thinks that DC is corrupt and government is corrupt the more they do this to him, the more I know people who would never have dreamed of voting for Trump. But they look at what they're doing and what's happening now and they're right behind them. He remember it's less likely they would actually put him in prison than they would put him in Mar-a-Largo under house arrest with gag orders, with, like, a US Marshal there to enforce it or something. They could do that a bit more easily. But whichever they do, he's still run. Look, boston once had a mayor, irish guy, curly I forget his real name, but Curly, 100 years ago was mayor was put in prison for corruption and he served. He got reelected from prison and served another term or two from prison. But Trump wouldn't serve from prison. He would run from prison and if he got elected he would be out right away. But I don't think you know. The truth is I doubt they would send him to prison. If they go this route. They'll confine him to Mar-a-Largo with a gag order, with Secret Service and a US Marshal to enforce the gag order, kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

Before we go to break, what do you think about the other side of the coin? Obviously, the Democrats didn't want any opposition. They drove RFK Jr into independence. Joe Biden is running, but there is no campaign, there are no real primaries. There have been whispers of Gavin Newsom and now Michelle Obama. What are your thoughts on what the Democrats are going to end up doing in 2024?

Speaker 3:

Michelle Obama. So you're not aware it sounds like of my involvement with this group, but I was told in 2016 that the plan was that they were fixing it for Hillary, and so you understand. I used to work for these people, right.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I do.

Speaker 3:

Okay and they had me bribe Hillary Clinton and I successfully bribe Hillary Clinton $18 million on January 14, 2016. After I did that, I was told to stifle and what turned out to be happening was they were going to let her be president and then, while she was president, there would be a Bunsen burner at the DOJ with the information about the bribe, so that way, they would control Hillary and then, after eight years, she steps down. Patrick and Michelle is going to run. And that's the plan, and that was told to me in February of 2016. There's been a plan it was called Operation Snow Globe to capture the presidency of Hillary and then it ends with and my bribe was the bait to lure Hillary into that Snow Globe and then that ends with Michelle Obama running. Well, I happen to like as a person, I thought she was a wonderful first lady, classy, but this would be Obama's fourth and fifth term and I think that's inappropriate.

Speaker 1:

Because the Biden is going to raise his third term. Well, clearly Joe Biden is running nothing and it does seem like Obama, you know, moving into that area and now the poise of Michelle Obama and some people talking about that she's already ready to run that campaign would certainly suggest that was the driving force behind this administration, and certainly to rally people behind their political agendas. You got to take a break. We're going to come back with more Patrick Byrne after this.

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Speaker 1:

And we are back with Patrick Byrne and Patrick before we move on. If you think Michelle Obama is going to be the person that they put forward in 2024, how does that happen? Does Biden step down either to legal issues maybe via his documents case or health issues? How would they slip somebody in like that at this point?

Speaker 3:

Well, certainly, once he gets to the convention in July and wins in his nominee, he can then say I've been thinking about this and I want I realize I'm not up to serving another term at which point the if it's already been decided in the committee. The committee at the DNC then chooses the candidate and that DNC it's all Obama, it's machine. So the machine would then replace Biden with Michelle Obama. It actually can be done. It actually can be done. Pardon me, let me turn that off. It actually can be done. Even when Joe Biden just gets to all the delegates he needs Now he might get someone's got to figure out that date, assuming he's getting all the delegates from all the primaries as we go, at what point it's probably someday in April he has enough delegates that he has the convention sewed up. I believe and you should probably research this to confirm it, but my understanding is the Democratic Party rules are such that if we got to April 20th and he has all the delegates he needs, he could at that point say you know what? I've got this sewed up, I've decided not to run, and then he and the committee just choose the successor and they choose Michelle Obama as a unity candidate. That would be the plan, so that could happen in April. Then the question is what does he do? Does he stay on, finish the year as president, or does he resign and let Kamala Harris? If he lets Kamala Harris in, I think that would radically degrade the odds that come November. That would degrade the number of Americans who want to vote for a black woman in November if we've had to live with Kamala Harris for six months before then. So they got a problem because I don't go ahead. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

But at the same time, isn't it just giving the plausibility that Michelle Obama can win? I mean, it's pretty apparent that many people that even were reluctantly supporting Biden with massive TDS back in 2020 have turned the corner, and obviously, you know, the Obamas are massively popular on that side of the political spectrum. So in my opinion, we haven't fixed the system. They just have to give the plausibility that she can win and then they can steal the election in key states. If in fact, it does end up being Michelle Obama and Donald Trump and, better yet, there's a possibility again that Donald Trump isn't even able to debate his opponent. We only got two presidential debates last time around, patrick. I mean these are kind of dark thoughts, but it's where I see us moving if in fact, they replaced Biden and put her in.

Speaker 3:

Well, that isn't dark thought, but I think you're. It's not inappropriate. Another dark thought, I'm sorry to say, is that they kill Trump. You know, I'm sure they've got people in a secret service, I'm sure you know, if they kill Trump, I see, I think they've waited 100 years for this moment. They've waited 100 years to have all these institutions of power. This is a communist takeover. This is the and, and I think they, they can't, they, they don't go peacefully, whether it's if, even if they force us into a civil war by doing something like killing Trump, or, you know, trump can have a heart attack. They can make Trump have a heart attack and an elevator. They can spray something in his nose and he has an elevator. By the time he hits, he has a heart attack by the time he hits the ground floor. They, if they'll be, they want to start the civil war. I think they want to start a civil war is what I really think.

Speaker 1:

Well, as somebody that's abroad and you know I mean what other people have that experience of since this started?

Speaker 3:

do they have low flying helicopters crossover their head every day? Because that used to not happen to me, but that was me every day.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know I try not to look up when I'm outside walking the dog. However, you know you just talked about really a dark scenario. If, in fact, trump were able where we're taking out now, now physically taken out I still think they'd like to slip Haley in. There is, there is a lot of hope for the establishment that's been pushing Haley. Obviously they're keeping her in the race. They tried to give the illusion with the what is it 5446 that Trump's not as dominant as he really is in the party, and so Nikki Haley is about as establishment as it gets. But then you get to play identity politics on on that end. You know you have your first woman president. She's, you know, a strong Republican and conservative values, but you're right back to the days of, as it's been said, dick Cheney and heels.

Speaker 3:

Now I actually like her. Of all the establishment candidates, she's the one I just I've you know before I really got what was going on with the Republican Party. If you're, 10 years ago, showed me here as a Republican candidate, I would have thought she was an attractive candidate. Now that I that we see just how useless the Republican Party is, I feel differently. And she's just, she's like Rhonda Sanis, she's chased. They dangled things out for her if she would take on Trump and she responded and chase it, and that's just not attractive. I think that. Well, I do think the good news is the government is deserting them. What I mean by that is the people who work in government, as opposed to the political commissars. I happen to know that across key agencies of the US government huge agencies, I mean the disaffection is so deep it's they're not going to let something unconstitutional happen or they're dead set against it Now. So I think that the Biden and ability to even command his own government to take part in any more of this is slipping and, like I say, I think there will be cases at the Supreme Court. I hold out hope that you'll see a case at the Supreme Court that seeks to reinstate Donald Trump on an emergency basis, because we're going to prove that the election was in fact rigged. And it would make a huge difference if Trump could run this election, because if he runs this election, we can run a clean, transparent election. And if Biden runs it, it's going to be Maricopa time. You know, you see how elections are going. Maricopa, I mean, it's like banana Republic stuff that they're going to turn the whole nation into that and that's how they stay in power.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, it feels that way already, patrick, we've got to take one more break, but when we come back, I want to shift gears and I want to talk. October 7, israel, palestine back after this final segment of making sense of the madness.

Speaker 2:

Patrick Burma. I'm going to be back with a 7 day free trial now and only pay $4.99 a month after. I'm going to be back with a 7 day free trial now and only pay $4.99 a month after.

Speaker 1:

And we are back with Patrick Byrne and Patrick, before the show you were discussing how you had talked to some intelligence officials overseas and they had some opinions on the Israel Palestine event. I gotta tell you, folks, I have no idea what he's going to say. I've had my questions from the very beginning. You know, first of all, the iron dome failing, then this quote-unquote, unprecedented attack that nobody knew anything about with para troopers. You know Palestine doesn't have an air force just to get in the air and do those sorts of things with suspect. With me I'm curious as to your opinion on what took place on October 7th, and you know I also want to mention the fact that it was slightly put out there in the media that in fact, us Special forces were doing training exercises in Israel at the time. The number of forces has not been revealed, but since then more forces have, of course, been sent over. So, pat, patrick, take it away.

Speaker 3:

Well, yes, I've been spending time in recent years in the Israeli blockchain community and so I'm familiar with the tech crowd there and, in particular, the tech crowd. Israel is kind of funny. Their version of the NSA the really smart kids who go into the military gets sent into that and then they leave and it feeds their version of Silicon Valley. So their Silicon Valley is right there on the beach and their version of NSA feeds it and that. So it's a. It's a tech community that's very supportive of the Israeli national security, and In that tech community there's a bunch of companies that support the, the national security mission. One of them is called Paragon. Joe Biden has had a lot of people around them who have economic links to Paragon. Joe Biden has used this administration to sort of knock out competitors. To buy to Paragon. You can't, he writes. There's a NGO up in Canada who will write a report as well. There's one competitor to Paragon who has a the, the contract in Singapore. They did this or that and help the government. That violates human rights, and so Joe Biden will say the United States will not do business with that company. Well, that kind of makes those a company worldwide. It's if the US won't touch it, they really towards them. A lot of governments will get out of it, would get out of their relationship for that company. He did that to a bunch of the competitors of Paragon, paragon being the one that Anthony Blinken and Avril Haines and such have connection to. So in some sense that's part of what is blinded Israeli intelligence is what I'm told the loss of these other companies which were the better ones. The other thing and this is being widely reported Across the spectrum in Israel it's not made it to the American press yet but it turns out, you know, it looks very suspicious that border is. So Mike Flynn came out, said I've been on that border. It's hard to see how anyone could have done this for seven hours. And there have been many Israelis who said that and people said how couldn't that? Now We've would have allowed something that like that to happen in order to respond. That's not what happened. What's being reported across the spectrum now in Italy? So there was a three-hour phone call the night before on October 6 from the heads of Shin Bet and Mossad and the Not the ministers, but the bureaucrat heads that the highest you go from the life, the lifers. They had a three-hour conference call because they had seen what Hamas was doing across the border and they decided it was a drill. And they decided after three hours it was a drill and they would get back with each other the next day. Well, it wasn't a drill they attacked and that's oh. But the interesting thing is they never reported it. They never reported it to the minister, minister defense or to Netanyahu. Now, anything that's important enough for the chief of staff of the army and Mossad and stuff to stay up the night before yamgopur talking for three hours is Something serious enough that you need to report to the minister of defense. But they failed to do so. So, and the reason for that is there's a real political, there's a color revolution going on in Israel that our state department seems to be backing Tony Blinken, and it's all about a bunch of what we would call Progressives versus the deplorables. Netanyahu's are the supporters of the deplorables, the Progressives, and Netanyahu wants to change the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court in Israel has a very strange property there's no written constitution and they can look at any law that gets passed and they can say this violates the spirit of Israel and they strike it down. And the and the people of Israel have gotten really tired of that, the deplorables, especially because the Supreme Court of Israel you know how in Judaism there's basically two types there's the Sephardic, which are look Middle Eastern, and then there's Ashkenazi Jews, who are European Jews. The Israeli Supreme Court has had 88 Justices in its history and 87 of them have been the white European Jews. So to the rest of the Israelis they feel like gee, we're really the deplorables. We go to all this work and lobby and get people elected and do all this work to get laws passed and a bunch of these white Jews from Europe sit up on the Supreme Court who look down their nose at us and say we think that that violates the spirit of Israel and they want now get. Well, netanyahu has tried to change that and it's been the subject. That's the core of this huge civil discontent in Israel right now and the people on the progressive side of that in late August, and in particular a woman named Shikma Bresler, who's a big leader in this, these, these demonstrations Threatened. Shikma Bresler is married to a high-ranking Israeli intelligence officer and she said if Netanyahu goes through with this, these deplorable reforms, I mean I'm trying, I'm paraphrasing that I speak for a thousand officers across the military and intelligence. He will lose the military and intelligence. He'll be a dictator. Without their support, he they will go blind and they won't be talking to him anymore. And for by the end of September she actually said at the end of August this will happen at the end of September. Well, what do you know? On October 6? They get news that they get that looks like Hamas is preparing an invasion, and they decide, and they study it for three hours and decide well, it's just, it's probably just a drill, and we're not even gonna tell BB, net and yahoo. We're practicing where we don't need, we don't deal with those deplorables anymore. So that's what really happened.

Speaker 1:

So, patrick, I know what you know. Nobody has reported that, nobody. I haven't heard anything about that phone call whatsoever and that didn't go up the chain of the command. But this would in fact suggest again more prior knowledge, at least on some level of the operation. The next day we only got a few minutes left in the broadcast. Is there anything else you want to hit on? What do you want to leave the audience with, and how can they support you and your work?

Speaker 3:

Well, don't. I want to leave you with. It's now or never. I've lived in communist countries. I lived in China 83, 84. You have no idea. Americans have no idea what's coming for you and the idea, if you're well, you won't have. You're all gonna be exterminated if China takes it. Their plan is to take us and turn us into a farm. They think it happens by 2028. People don't understand you. If you're watching red dawn too many times, you're not getting it. They don't fight us. They trigger us into a civil war. We collapse from the civil war and 90% of people die from supply chain interruptions. The cartels get three years to rape, pillage, loot and burn across the US. Then, when we're a husk, they they withdraw and China occupies and we're in new China and this is all spelled out in their national security literature and it's gonna happen. They used to say it was gonna happen by 2049. Then in 2010, they advanced their goal to 2030. They now think it's 2028 or 2027. This is all over. They think that we're at the edge of civil war. We have three or four years of just and then the Chinese are occupying. So if you want to prevent that, what you want to do is get involved now. You want to be working on your precinct strategy. That three right you can do right now is precinct strategy. Take over the Republican Party from within. It's not a big commitment. There's hundreds of thousands of open seats, delegate seats, in your county state, wherever you find you just sign up. It means once a month to go and eat some chicken pot pie and talk politics, but you need to take over the Republican Party. Second of three points. The second is work on voter rolls right now. Clean up your voter rolls. And third, especially for any retired law enforcement or or Military, we want you to work in the election system, not just observe on election day, but for those four-week period we need you to go down and work, get jobs and work and keep it, keep it clean and we'll win this and we will this wheel. This will be something that Americans will understand for a hundred years. They will talk about how this was our third world war, our generation's challenge, and we met it.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know, vivek Rama Swami said this is our 1776 moment. I sure hope it is, because we do need to take back our Our constitutional Republic. Thank you so much, patrick. We really appreciate you. And thank you, guys, for joining us Monday through Friday here at Patriot TV, where the truth lives. Remember, we have expanded. It's not just news shows, its podcasts, it's movies. Please consider supporting us over there, going against the mainstream narrative. Remember, folks, to me it's not about left to right, it's always about right and wrong. We got Mel K coming up tomorrow. I love you, guys, you.

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