TRANSHUMANISM AND THE DEATH JAB ARE MANIPULATING GOD'S DESIGN | Counter Narrative Ep. 157

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Starting off the week with an array of topics today, everything from a pastor sharing insights on the transhumanist slash UFO agenda to more exposure of the deathjad. It's Monday, november 20th. I'm John Scott, christy Lee's husband, filling in, and this is the Counter Narrative, okay, rolling right into some of the latest news headlines from Politico, jim Jordan ramps up probe into financial institutions in the wake of January 6. Jordan on Thursday compelled Bank of America records to turn over records related to information sharing with the FBI or the Justice Department. Jordan's letter to Bank of America includes a screenshot of an email between a bank employee, whose name is redacted, to a redacted FBI email saying that they should have received or filing on the parameters you discussed last week. But Bank of America wrote in a June letter to Jordan, a copy of which was obtained by Politico, that it was acting under illegal authority established by the Department of Treasury. Jordan is giving Bank of America until December 15th to turn over documents. That includes any communications with federal law enforcement on the same topic. I still find it insane that just because you end up showing up to a protest, that the federal government has the right to go through your bank records. We've seen this type of stuff with the trucker convoy, protests and many other things currently in this country, and it just seems like an overstep by government, moving on from rebel news breaking. Charges dismissed for Calgary pizza owner who served unvaccinated customers during lockdown. The crown prosecutors dismissed all charges of COVID restriction noncompliance against Jesse Johnson, the owner of Without Papers Pizza it's a great name, by the way. In a Calgary courtroom this morning, the short court hearing lasted around 10 minutes with cheers breaking out from Johnson supporters after the decision was delivered. Again, another thing that seemed so crazy that the government would interject and you're getting a pizza slice, but Without Papers. As I said, great name for the time and it seems like a good win in this situation. From a news release from telecom giant Vion, secretary Pompeo joins in his capacity as a partner of Impact Investments, a newly established US-based strategic and financial advisory and investment firm which seeks to develop long-term partnerships with the world's leading companies across a range of industries and geographies. These changes to Kyiv Star's board of directors reflect Vion's commitment to Ukraine, of course, and to the recovery and reconstruction of the country. As previously announced, vion has committed $600 million US and investments in Ukraine over the next three years, alongside the launch of its Invest in Ukraine Now initiative, inviting other international companies to commit to Ukraine's rebuilding with a commitment to providing services in Ukraine. Vion has exited Russia, of course, announcing the completion of the sale of its Russian subsidiary on 9 October 2023. This just made me think of kind of a Dick Cheney Halliburton 2.0. You know, war is a racket. It seems like this is the opportunity for Pompeo to make his money off this conflict. It's just a shame. Anyway, switching gears now time to bring on our first guest today. Pastor Kasper McLeod is a multifaceted individual, distinguished as a virtuoso guitarist, accomplished singer, prolific songwriter and acclaimed recording artist. Additionally, he is recognized for his talents as a portrait artist and equestrian. As an ordained minister, pastor McLeod has authored several best-selling books, with what Was I Thinking, illuminating the intricate connection between our thoughts and their impact on our life and physical well-being. In 2016, his publication Unmasking the Future played a pivotal role in unveiling the transhumanist UFO agenda and just last year, his double album Walking in Authority received the claim with a perfect 10 out of 10 rating from UK CCM magazine. It features esteemed personalities such as Dr Sherry Tempenny and Dr Lee Merritt on the cover, alongside other speakers with whom Pastor McLeod has had the privilege of sharing the conference stage. Welcome to the counter narrative, pastor Kasper McLeod.

Speaker 3: 4:46

I'm delighted to be with you today. Thank you for inviting me on.

Speaker 1: 4:49

Yes, it's delight, Not a problem any time. So you're definitely not your average pastor. How did someone with all your giftings and backgrounds step into the ministry?

Speaker 3: 5:01

Oh, that's an interesting question. I was really reluctant to do that, but it was clearly the Lord who called me into this situation. I was suffering from some heart disease in the 90s. On the church I was attending, I was a music minister at that point. I'd left all the major labels and recording things behind. They called me in one day and said God had spoken to them. They wanted to ordain me as a pastor. I thought, well, if I'm going to die anyways, I might as well die serving God. So I jumped through all the hoops, went through all the things that get ordained, and then I ended up having a miraculous healing on the 3rd of July in 2001. My heart stopped beating in the church service. My physician was there. I'd gotten off all medical, all the medicines that they put me on that they said you could never get off. That's another life in the medical establishment, I should admit. I quit med school my first day I walked in the Gadavik class and walked right out and thought I really don't want to do this. I want to play in a rock and roll band. So I spent a lot of my life doing that. So I got to play with some of the most amazing musicians in the world as well, and I'm still playing. We just put out a new album called Higher Frequencies. That's getting a really good response. We just came back from touring the UK, played from the South to the north of England and just got an amazing response everywhere we were. That's fantastic.

Speaker 1: 6:37

So let's talk about your book Unmasking the Future, written back in 2016, Exposing Transhumanism in the UFO agenda. It seems to be a hot topic in our world today, right, Especially with all these kind of UFO hearings going on in different countries.

Speaker 3: 6:51

Yeah, I've been warning this for years that this was going to happen and now it's happening. I was on a program with my friend, dr Kerry Maudet I work with every week on another show, and we were in a show in Scotland and they introduced her as being the first person to expose what was inside the vials and then said I had written on Masking the Future a decade ago, exposing all the things that we see happening right now. So I do remember walking out to some Spirit-filled churches, especially in England, and said how many of you have heard of transhumanism? Nobody knew what I was talking about. Well, they do now. So we have people like Joe Kushner saying that he's going to be the generation that never dies because it's human, because of science right.

Speaker 1: 7:43

So now that they've got the knowledge of science. That's something that's always been interesting to me, and I feel even seeing someone like Elon Musk wanted to talk about Go To Mars. There's certain things that always just seem like Tower of Babel things to me, and in hearing him talk about just the intricacy of how to get the space, I'm thinking, or something goes wrong, you'll skip and end up the Jupiter. And I'm thinking, well, maybe some things are put in place because we're not supposed to go. I feel that way sometimes with a lot of medical advancements as well, 3d printing organs and all these types of things. I wonder how much are we really supposed to? If we're truly a creation of God? Right that God smiled upon, I mean, enough to where angels rebelled, right, because of the love God had for us. It always makes me wonder. Maybe the biggest affront, one of the biggest sins towards God is messing with that creation. That would be us right. So I sometimes go deep in the thought on those type of things. My first interaction with anything about transhumanism actually came from. There were always little bits, I feel, like I heard from Alex Jones in the past, but my first time running into it was actually with people like Tom Horn and Chuck Missler Right, I grew up with both of them. Yeah, I went down some rabbit holes in thought. I feel like listening to these guys, especially bringing scripture into it. It was very interesting for me. Would you like to talk even go deeper with this if you'd like?

Speaker 3: 9:12

Yeah, actually I just put out a song dedicated to Tom Horn. It's called On the Other Side. I'm sure you can find it on YouTube right now. But Tom was a great influence, a great friend, and we talked about these things. We talked about the Pophis, the asteroid that's coming to Earth. It should be striking the Earth I think it's the 13th of April 2029, which is not very far away and so if that is actually a womb word in the Bible, then that would mean most likely the rapture is going to happen in our lifetime, and how close are we to the return of Christ and the tribulation period upon us. So it's all coming to a head. I got to spend time with Chuck Missler years ago just before he went on the glory on what a great man he was. I'm so glad you mentioned him. I remember talking to him and telling him how I had all cassettes of him talking about with Dr Mark Eastman on what was really going on with the whole UFO phenomena, and he looked at me and said you're making me feel really old. So he had a great sense of humor. I was just going to say we're looking at interdimensional demonic entities, these things. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and, chances are, acts like a duck, it's probably a duck, all these things. I've ministered to people that claim to be abducted by extraterrestrials. I've done all kinds of interviews over the years with talking about these things. None of it. It all goes along with the Word of God. If we just study the Word of God, most Christians today aren't even reading the Bible. They don't know what it says. We don't get into the Word of God. The Word of God can't get into you, is it so? I mean, I think that was really good.

Speaker 1: 11:11

The Misler's one of the ones that kind of challenged me. That's why I have a literary concordance. I'm interested in seeing the Hebrew and the Greek along with it and really researching these words. How many times are these words used and in what context are they used? It was kind of me coming back to Christ actually was through Misler. I was raised Mormon so I kind of had to in many ways re-educate myself because I kind of threw the whole baby out with the bath water. In that respect had a lot of bad experiences and then realized that even with Mormonism the terminology might be the same but the definitions are different. And that's what always threw me off, kind of coming back, and I always like to tell my wife it was like a path for me, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3: 11:57

Yeah, absolutely Well, praise the Lord, you came out of Mormonism and we're really looking for solutions today and obviously you're well studied and you understand about the Nephilim connection that's going on. We've got fallen angels masquerading as extraterrestrials. We've got psychopathic, globalist, transhumanist, depopulationist that are trying to take over the world. And I'd actually gone answer the Georgia Guidestones, the Investigate, first Down with Dr LA Mosulie, probably decade ago when they were still standing, and then again that hit the mystery of that, they were taken down. I was doing a television show with my band the day they came down and we wrote a song about it which is one of the new albums, because I remember which one. Now I've done a number of albums recently getting prolific in my older years here, but they've told us openly what they're trying to do and they're all connected with the same demonic spirits the whole Freemasonry and even you mentioned in the opening segment. I mean you go back to the 1700s who benefited from the French Revolution. I mean this was white-hot, the connection of the globalist. Back then they sent a writer with a secret message and it's sealed in one of his coats and he gets struck by lightning. The authorities find him on his way to Paris, france, sorry, call, and they tell everybody there to state what's going on. They got plans that they take down Europe. They ignored it, just like they're ignoring plans today for the same atrocities we saw in Israel happening on the 7th of October was it recently? And they're planning to do that in America and most people are just ignoring the warnings, just like ignoring Pearl Alba. So back in the 1700s the Illuminati comes in with the Jacobians. I used to talk to Tom Hohen about this sort of thing and the only reason they couldn't come into England was because God had raised up John Wesley. You couldn't even go to church in England unless you had the right dress attire. It was all a religious experience back then for the most part. And then Wesley shows up and his brother Charles looking at him. He goes. You've been kicked out of every church you go to because he kept actually sharing the word of God. So they kept throwing him out of church. And George White, who lives at, comes preaching on the streets with me and John Wesley was insulted. He's repulsed by the idea of me I'm the Reverend John Wesley, I can't preach on the street, golemists. And his brother Charles says one thing to me he goes. Well, that's what Jesus did. And then look what happened he's out there and the common person, the commoners, get saved. So when the terrorists came into England and to London, they went no, not Avenue, go back. We're definitely not Avenue here.

Speaker 1: 15:14

So I was telling my kids the other day. I was telling them about how just the fact that you're able to read the Bible is a miracle. I said people going especially in that time that you're speaking of you had to go to a church and it was spoken to you. Just the fact that the Bible is put in the print, and it's also everyday man, and just the control that the state and authority wanted over the word of God to be able to manipulate and use over and to suppress people. I was trying to explain it to the kids. You don't realize just being able to read was not a right for people not that long ago in our past.

Speaker 3: 15:58

I don't think King James actually read the Bible, but praise the Lord that he went ahead and let it be made into English, because they killed him after they planted somebody when the first English Bible came out to the Volkai and they changed one word Dal Shell committed to Altruist. So as soon as it was left the press they came in and they put them at the stake for being a heretic Just the way they set things up. Today with these, we've got all these rope fractions and gold coins. Today I think we go back to think about this. Revelation 12, 11,. It says they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, by the wood of the testimonies, and they loved not their lives on to death. That really needs to be a mandate for us. Today we consider what kind of solutions are available to us. We just live fearlessly for the Lord, live a life that glorifies Christ.

Speaker 1: 16:56

Yeah, very true. No, I like that. That's a profound scripture. So talk to me about your double album Walking in Authority. Why you? Chose to meet your Patriots on that album.

Speaker 3: 17:10

I'd done a lot of conferences over the years with most of the people on the cover. Kate Shomarani in England. Kate was arrested for holding a protest with a permit in London, with several doctors saying actually Huxley-Clarkewin is very good and I've remained in Cadalby right now in 2020. So they arrested a bitter and solitary confinement, and threatened her with life imprisonment. She's out now and she's a godly woman doing the best she can for the Lord. Dr Kerry Maudet is very outspoken, sharing the truth. Obviously Sherry Tempani and Dr Lee Merritt and Dr Brian Aldis in the back row. Tommy James, who I've played with, is a great friend, and Rick Derringer, another close friend, and I think next to him is Carmen Appas, who you played with Rod Stewart's band in front of Ali Mazzulli somewhere back there, and Carmen had called me up and said that he wanted to do what I was doing and play for the Lord Jesus, and I'd just written a song called Make Us Free. How long is it going to be before the Lord returns? It makes us free and this gets us out of this fallen world, and Carmen ended up playing on that track with me. So the opening number it's actually yeah, I went into the studio. I didn't intend to make a double album, but just the way it came out. The Lord just kept giving me more songs and more songs and we had too many to put on a record. We could have actually done three albums in that one, but you know it's on the bulldozer. We've got all your favorites. We got Closh Wab and the World Economic Forum gang with the Gates of Health Foundation, billy Gates, and they got their suffocation mask on. Good for them.

Speaker 1: 19:08

Well, you know, I was talking to my wife not too long ago when the Mayo Clinic updated their pages on Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and then on there, yeah, can be used in the treatment of COVID-19. And it's just going through everything that went on. I mean that was considered something that would ban you shadow, ban you, misinformation, the whole nine yards. And then here it is, mayo Clinic updates those definitions and how it's used and I'm like, ok, and it's interesting to see the amount of people. And this is something I struggle with. I tell my wife this is that I'll see certain individuals that are saying, well, we just like to ask for a little bit of grace, people that were so bold, pushing I don't know, almost being authoritarian to regular, everyday human beings, and it's like that I'm trying. It's hard for me to almost find that balance, because that that I want to do as Christ says, right, I need to show grace to these individuals.

Speaker 3: 20:16

No, we're supposed to love our enemies.

Speaker 1: 20:18

And it's back from them for what they did to it. That it's hard. It's hard for me to kind of reconcile that sometimes.

Speaker 3: 20:25

I think that's hard for everybody, but it's a commandment to love our enemies and you good to those that have persecuted us and don't horrendous things. I still want them to pay for their crimes against humanity, but I don't want them to spend it in the now. So I pray for cloche while it's not getting on the world economic forum. I pray for them. I do and I ask my church to pray for them and others. So I, you know, it's really it's what I did with that album. There's a lot of things that I I got in deep platform for saying and I found I could put them in song and and I'm still out there I can get, so I guess I find I can say something in you know, a few minutes in a song that if I said it openly, you know I just get banned for it. And this past weekend I hid Dr Judy Mike of it's with me. She spoke at our church and no, I mean, all the evidence is there. I mean, if anybody that takes a look at, like the book pandemic, all the, all the patents were in place. I remember I shared in 2020 with my church ID 2020 Alliance where it said unless you you know this is by Microsoft unless you Get our digital In plants, nobody's gonna buy or sell anything. This is March of 2020. When this was all unfolding, I said I opened your Bible, the revelation 13. This is happening in real time, right in front of you right now. You know that's what they're planning, right? So unless we speak out against these things, you know People just go along with it. They don't know any better. I remember sharing revelation 1823 and I had some pastors in Scotland that came against me. How dare you read the Bible in church? Scaring people with the Bible? It's like, yeah, let's die one back a couple hundred years.

Speaker 1: 22:17

Right, it's like what else do you expect me to be doing?

Speaker 3: 22:21

People were injected, you know, with the deception, and, and they, I'm going like this cell tells you right in Revelation 1823, the, the merchants, the great, you know the George Soros, the Billy Gates, you know the Klaus Schwab's will deceive all the nations of the world with pharmaceuticals. Says it right there. And no, these scriptures. You know I got booked at the supernatural.

Speaker 1: 23:13

Now, very true, you know, and it's hard to for me, I see these younger generation, especially even with the kids. I'm constantly challenging them. You know what, when you, if you're browsing the internet, you're browsing YouTube, like how much of what you're actually seeing you know Is of the Lord or you would say is good, you know it's, it's, it's even through the algorithms. I have to be very purposeful. I'm always telling my wife, like with anything social media wise, to actually go in there and and have to tweak it and put blocks and just because of the algorithms that they throw. You know, I'm trying to raise up to two, two, two young men and a young woman and Just the way the algorithms are targeted them at them, with, with, with the over overwhelming amount of sexuality and things even Based to kids at myself for my wife, and it's like it's just crazy the world that we have to live in in that respect and so many, even my age bracket, the older age, but it doesn't even matter, we're, we're being targeted Daily and marketed to with half of this that I mean, quite frankly, it's just smart.

Speaker 3: 24:17

Well, it's propaganda is what it is, and that's what the Nazis helped invent television 1933 for the sole purpose of propaganda programming. Tell yeah, lie visions, right to telling your lies and visions of what they want.

Speaker 1: 24:33

So I'm very true, I will pass to the pilot. Let's, let's end your recent album. Let's talk about higher frequencies. What can our audience expect from that out?

Speaker 3: 24:43

I Know higher frequencies. It opens with a song asking the questions what are we gonna see in the future? Which is one of my favorite tracks on there. We 12 and do a number of songs and again saying things that most people won't talk about, and especially in church, it seems. But I wrote a song about my friend, miss Kate Shimirani, and it's one of the songs on there which has gotten some Radio play recently and Kate had phoned me and played me Something somebody made for her podcast like an opening track, and she asked me what I thought of it and I gave my honest opinion. I didn't think it Was what she needed. I thought I needed a lot of revisions. So I'm up the phone. I picked up my guitar about 15 minutes later I called the back and said, how about something like this? And so I ended up Getting with the band and we recorded the song called miss Kate and it's kind of, you know, just takes it through the story. She's, you know, trying to protect us and especially the kids from being injected, and she's one of the Haruens Of the faith right now that people need to Understand. I mean because the press has done a horrendous act in England to To try to discredit her like they do just like they do with dr Judy Mickovich trying to Go the opposite direction of what she was revealing, especially with Anthony Fauci, and the more I study about this guy, the more I get the impression he really doesn't care about humanity. It's all about the fact that she's a person Humanity at all.

Speaker 1: 26:24

No, it doesn't seem like it, right? I you know I haven't fully read Kennedy's book, the real Anthony Fauci, but it's just the more I see I just don't understand. It's kind of like that rules for me, for the, not for me, and I don't understand that. In life, as average citizens, no matter where we are in the world, we're held accountable for lots of basic things traffic, tickets are taxes. You know, I mean, you name it. You don't cut your grass and you're in a community development, you're gonna get fined and written up for that. Whatever it may be, there's accountability for it. But for some reason there's another set of rules for the people that that think they have the right to rule us, and that's always blown my mind and I've always been fascinated to that. You know, of course, as they say, we're across the pond, but I always remember after 9-11, you know, I remember, I remember you. You had the 9-11 terror attacks, united States, but then you had that attack that was in England and I remember Alex Jones at that time talking heavy about the Surveillance state, but I remember him touching pretty heavy in England and I always, I always felt like seeing that footage that long ago, I'm thinking, oh, the US will never get to that point. And I look where we are today and it's like no, here we are fast forward 20 years. I mean it's like the world's in line locked step with each other on this kind of stuff.

Speaker 3: 27:43

They don't mind doing things in increments. They take the time they've set, as I mean because they're not gonna live to see a lot of the Nefarious plans that in agendas they have in place. I mean this has been going on for hundreds of years, if not eons, because you're dealing with an invisible Evil entity behind it all.

Speaker 1: 28:01

So Well, pastor McLeod, that's about all the time we have. I really appreciate you joining me today. I'm filling it for my wife. I hope you get the time to come back to speak with my wife. I know she would very much enjoy speaking with you as well. Would you like to give us where, give us a web address or where people can reach out to you, sir?

Speaker 3: 28:20

You can reach us at the the upper room, fellowshiporg. You could also reach us through Casper mcleod music. Calm, casper is with two a's and with the Holy Ghost, not the friendly ghost.

Speaker 1: 28:36

Gotcha again, I appreciate you coming through. I recommend people pick up those albums. I like that there's those stories intertwined with those songs and to where each one of them songs is relevant and giving and giving light to a Story of an individual that's fighting for freedom and fighting for the Lord. I appreciate your time. Uh, Pastor McLeod.

Speaker 3: 28:54

Thank you so much to delight to meet you and God bless you yes.

Speaker 1: 28:58

Thank you, thank you, god bless you up. Next we have Rachelle Volf from Mindset Wellness with Dr Jim Meehan.

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Speaker 1: 32:08

For those of you who are tuning back in, I'm John Scott, again filling in for my wife, estie Lee, as she's enjoying our bundle of little joy, our new little daughter. Here's a silly headline, a rhetorical question many of you already know the answer to From Vox why are so few people getting the latest COVID-19 vaccine? And they say, what's good? What good is a miraculous vaccine if nobody wants to take it? Well, let's let Dr Marty McCarrie answer that when he testified to Congress earlier in the year.

Speaker 6: 32:40

The greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the pandemic has been the United States government Misinformation that COVID was spread through surface transmission, that vaccinated immunity was far greater than natural immunity, that masks were effective. Now we have the definitive Cochrane review. What do you do with that review? Cochrane is the most authoritative evidence body in all of medicine and has been for decades. Do you just ignore it, not talk about it? Have myocarditis was more common after the infection than the vaccine, not true. It's four to 28 times more common after the vaccine. The young people benefit from a booster Misinformation. Our two top experts on vaccines quit the FDA in protest over this particular issue, pushing boosters in young, healthy people. The data was never there. That's why the CDC never disclosed hospitalization rates among boosted Americans under age 50. The vaccine mandates would increase vaccination rates. The George Mason University study shows it didn't. It did one thing it created never-vaxxers who are now not getting the childhood vaccines they need to get Over and over again. We've seen something that goes far beyond using your best judgment with the information at hand. We've seen something which is unforgivable. That is, the weaponization of medical research itself, the CDC putting out their own shoddy studies, like their own study on natural immunity, looking at one state for two months, when they had data for years on all 50 states. Why did they only report that one sliver of data? Why did they salami slice the giant database? Because it gave them the result they wanted. Same with masking study. The data has now caught up in giant systematic reviews. Public health officials were intellectually dishonest. They lied to the American people. Thank you.

Speaker 1: 34:49

That hits a certain kind of way. That's why I wanted the audience to see this and lead it to our next guest here to weigh in on this and more is Rachelle Voth. She is a certified physician assistant with eight years of hospitalist internal medicine and critical care in the ICU. Over the last three years, she specifically treated patients with acute COVID, long-haul COVID and COVID vaccine injuries. Seeking to align herself with a medical team dedicated to remedying the challenges of the pandemic, rachelle came to join Meehan MD. She now provides targeted therapies and holistic wellness strategies to Meehan MD patients in a 34-plus states who suffer physically from either COVID vaccine adverse events or related conditions. From Rachelle to the counter Hi John.

Speaker 4: 35:37

It's nice to see you. Thanks for having me back. It's good to meet Christie's other half.

Speaker 1: 35:43

Yeah, there we go. What's your reaction to Dr McCary's comments there?

Speaker 4: 35:49

Yeah, to some degree, it doesn't ever get old. It's always jaw-dropping when you hear the powerful truth behind the real statistics, the real data, just like when we're watching Dr Peter McCullough's Arizona Senate testimony and you're hearing him put out numbers saying 1.2 million people died of COVID in the United States, when the real data supports Only 10% of that was actually related to a true COVID infection. When you start hearing these things you realize the narrative is so important. Who is controlling that narrative is imperative to figure out, because you need the right data, you need the right facts. It's always informing, always engaging. I think it's always important to be seeking for the people who have the truth behind the narrative that we need to be following along with.

Speaker 1: 36:42

No, very true. It's still hard for me to process sometimes. I tell my wife it's like waking up sometimes and reading the news reading X, now, not Twitter, but I don't know how many times I'll have to throw a heavy out when I'm so used to it I'm thinking there's no way this could be real. That's the biggest thing for me coming out of COVID is hearing a statement just like I played prior to you coming on, leading into you. Coming on, it's like that was all said to be conspiracy and everything. In the beginning you were considered to be nuts and then now it's like no, the reality is, this is what medicine did in our country. Here's what authority did in our country. So kind of diving in. How about you tell us some of your success stories post treatment of COVID, infection and injection?

Speaker 4: 37:33

Thank you. Yeah, we've had a lot of success, which is what is exciting because there really is hope, and I want people to know that Even two years out post shot, people still have issues. Or two years out post COVID I think you and I have been talking behind the scenes a little bit we saw that Delta wave variant in that December and early winter months of 2021. People still have issues, things like numbness or tingling of their hands and their feet, really severe fatigue, brain fog, loss of taste and smell. One of my favorite cases is I did have an individual, young mid forties, and they had lost their taste and smell. They'd had COVID and they had had the shot multiple times and for two years they couldn't taste anything more than really just cheez-its. And this particular individual is very active as an athletic coach, so you can imagine he's very engaged and has good muscular performance and endurance and all of a sudden, he has no quality of life because you're not able to participate in the things you enjoy and, honestly, frankly, to eat the things to sustain your output that your body would need being so athletic. And so he had been to not hundreds of doctors, but multiple doctors, spent hundreds of dollars for sure, and nothing, nothing had worked for him. And so he came to our door actually because his wife had made him come and within 45 days we were able to get his taste and smell restored fully, which was really incredible and I loved that. Actually, we got it so well that he forgot to come back for his third appointment and I thought maybe something had gone wrong. When I called him, he goes oh no, no, no, I just thought therapy was done. We're all good, I can smell it, I'm eating everything, I'm ordering all the things on the menu at every restaurant. So I love that story in particular.

Speaker 1: 39:16

That was what was frustrating, as we talked behind the scenes before that, I had had COVID a few times and it was very frustrating because for one I wasn't going to get the vaccine and I know that that's what I was going to be told if I went to your average doctor and I didn't want to end up in the hospital. So I'm trying to do anything, anything that I'm just reading everything I can. When, meanwhile, the news that he experts say well, you don't understand medical studies, you shouldn't. Luckily it was, you know, luckily for me, my wife had already started interviewing, you know, malone and McCullough, a lot of these people. So I'm thinking, okay, I was kind of just listening as they're, as they're citing things and pointing people in certain directions, and I hadn't mentioned before a whole issue I had was actually when I, when I first got A covid, I had kind of the traditional symptoms, but I actually had a huge gastrointestinal issue with it. So mine really wasn't even long as it was all gastrointestinal, which was very interesting.

Speaker 4: 40:11

Yeah, you know it's interesting about that is them. So a lot of people think of cove is being a respiratory disease, but the way that cove it enters your body, it has an s1 unit. That's the part that this of the spike protein, the s1 unit, is the part that makes you feel like crud, gives you all the symptoms you know the fever, the flu, the aches, the pains, etc. But then there's yes to part, which is the part that specifically binds and helps it get access into your your cells and ace to receptors are actually in a lot of different places. The predominant concentration is in your lungs, but then your gut is the secondary storehouse. So a lot of people actually do have GI issues and that was my case too similar to yours Because it can actually access and influence through the gut system as well. And similarly, what's interesting and people maybe do not know this but your gut bacteria can actually pick up spike protein and replicate and make it when you, when you, when you're talking about these shots and the plasma DNA that was contained in them, one of the risks of this excess DNA that is in these you know flies are maternal vials is that our body can take it up and use it in different cell lines Inappropriately, and particularly our gut system likes to do that. So you talking about the gut makes perfect sense. It's just not as focused, perhaps in the near and the near out there.

Speaker 1: 41:28

You know, I feel like the public's not truly educated any way on our health. I you know they had a repeated this the other day to someone I had spoke with that, um, it was Head of the UFC. Dana White was talking about going to a general doctor. He said I'll never go again. I'll go for surgeries. You know he was talking about very you know certain things that he would go he's like, but I'm not going to just get prescribed a bunch of medication Basically right almost like a pipeline for the pharmaceutical industry. What can you? How can you tell if symptoms are related to prior COVID infection or an injection?

Speaker 4: 42:01

Sure, it's a good question. You know, because I've had eight years of hospitalist experience. I was familiar with the most common things and from an internal medicine perspective, you know how do you have pneumonia, do you have the flu, do you have heart failure, you have cancer. So having a really good background of what common states are in certain age ranges, with certain Comorbidities and most expected things, obviously has helped. But then when you throw in COVID into that picture, what my experience was, even in working in the hospital sector, was that I saw symptoms and correlations of symptoms that were irrespective to people's age range, to their Comorbidities, other health issues, and just out of proportion to what was normal. So, for example, you talk about like these turbo cancers. They're kind of circulating in the news. What we mean by that is that there's a cancer that developed particularly aggressively and maybe in spots that are irregular To their primary point of origin and spread beyond where they really should go, or they spread very fast, almost like a wildfire, where you know the progression from a stage one to stage four should take a few months to a few years. And so I started noticing that these signals were off. And so how do you tell? Are my symptoms today because of a prior infection with COVID or because of the injections. Part of it is getting with a clinician who knows how to look for that, like our, our network here. But some of the things that I tell people to look for is the timeline. So when you got the shot particularly for people who had the shot Did you, within maybe a four to five six month timeline, develop a new onset of a weird symptom or have a flare of a current condition that you already knew up? For example, if I had arthritis, did I now have more joint pain within those first four or five six months? Some things are obvious, like the taste and smell. Right, that doesn't happen with just anything. Usually that's coded itself. But then other things, like when I did, I have, you know, congestive heart failure and then, after I got the shot, I've now noticed I'm just more short of breath on a routine and daily basis. Things like that are good questions to ask, because what I experienced in the hospital was I started incorporating the shot into Our differential diagnosis, meaning of all the things that could happen to you and the primary reason is why they happen to you. I put the shot as one of them. When I started doing that, I started realizing that a lot of people's presentations would make sense to me because they would come in with I've been great, I've been, you know, cancer-free for five years. My oncologist told me we're in the clear and all of a sudden I come in, I'm having abdominal pain and it's full blown stage four. Where did that come from, you know? And so it's things that kind of disregard the normal timelines and disregard the normal progression of disease states, which is hard, I think, as a patient sometimes to capture or Think about. But as a clinician we should be giving acknowledgement of, and we should be readily trained to be Observe, that these things are happening and certain symptoms are occurring out of the confines of what is normal and appropriate bounds for progression of existing disease states.

Speaker 1: 45:13

Interesting you know that especially now that we have a newborn in our lives. Yeah, and we did a natural. We did a natural birth at a birthing center, did a water birth, so I got to deliver the baby, which was just Mind-blowing. It was so, it was so quiet Can't even really describe it, you know. And Now seeing what happened with COVID, and I see, I grew up. I took, I took my regular vaccines as a child and I remember, I remember what was it. Yeah, I remember taking a vaccine I couldn't remember exactly which one it was to where I couldn't use my legs for almost a week. I remember this as a kid. I remember my dad, mom, having to pick me up to bring me upstairs and to take baths and to go to bed and then, but what really threw me off was when. I was in the military and they gave us the anthrax vaccine and then, seeing afterward, tactically the FDA really didn't approve that shot. It was all the hype of 9-eleven up. And then I'm forced to take. You don't question anything, you go into the military, take every shot, you stand in line and get it. So now that we have this little one, it now it's like I want to ask why, about everything you know, show me all, show me everything for all these vaccines, like, do you really need this? When do you need this? If so, what's the data behind it? Just just seeing the debacle that went on with all this stuff, so it's interesting kind of you I would not respect it is.

Speaker 4: 46:39

you know, it's interesting about that. Oh, go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 46:41

No, no, no, you go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 4: 46:43

They say you know it's the other part of the conversation, I forget who said it, but they said it's going to take a failed adult vaccine to take a retrospective look and Wake up to what's happening with the childhood vaccination schedule, and that is a testament of my awakening experience. I didn't question the childhood vaccination schedule at all. I'm a product of it. You know, when I went to school it was they taught us to schedule. They did not tell us anything about how it eradicated diseases. You know how, what the risks were of it, which now, thinking backwards, I should. It's crazy that I never even thought to ask that question. Well, hey, is there been any side effects from this? Because this is a product right and products are not perfect in performance. So it really has been. The silver lining, I think, of the COVID experience of these failed modified RNA shots is that we have done a backwards glance at a retrospective audit of the childhood vaccination schedule, and when you start delving into that realm, there's a lot of questions that have been left unanswered.

Speaker 1: 47:38

No, very true, and you know they just had the hearings the other day with with what a Malone doctor Malone and um, what it was like a lawyer and another doctor I'm sorry I don't remember all the names, but the topic of coming up DOD and CIA and all them working on this project, for you know, sars, covid, viruses and right. I always said this, beginning to my wife I said, look, if the military developed something and then they leaked it out, that would have been more plausible to get people to take a vaccine, that all the nonsense we went through. You're like, look, we created this, something happened. It's bad, everybody's got to be vaccinated for it. But I'm like, going that, going the route they went with it, I'm like I don't want it, I don't want to step nowhere near it.

Speaker 8: 48:18

You know I mean, trust is lost.

Speaker 1: 48:20

Going back to what you know. The video I let into it's like the trust is gone. Now I don't know how they're gonna build that back in the medical industry as far as what they've done. Do you blame people for not even listening and not wanting to follow their guidance? I don't.

Speaker 4: 48:35

Right. Well, I think that's why we've seen such a pendulum swing in medicine From. People are scared to go to hospital, people are scared to go to their doctor, and that is because the premise of the physician and patient relationship is trust. I trust that you have information that you have vetted and you know Um stratified for me and that you have my best outcomes in mind. And obviously that's not what happened. I go through the COVID process or these modified RNA injections at all. So rightfully so they should have a distrust, and part of this pendulum swing now has I really think we've seen it junk people out from doing traditional medical models To more integrative and functional medicine and looking at things of the earth you know they could heal us or drugs that have been repurposed and that have stood the test of time, like low-dose milk tracks, unlike Ivermectin, like hydroxychloroquine, and so what's unique, I think, about dr Miha and the my arrangement is that I am more internal medicine bred and born. I'm a recent convert into the functional medicine, integrative space, but he has the functional and integrative space medicine more long-term while verse. He is also an MD as well. That was his initial training. But we really marriage that model together because we understand that there is no Universal answer, there is no one solution size fits all and frankly, we don't want a pill for every ill, and so really what we try and do here as a practice is to engage you into a state of wellness. But we realize that these COVID shots and either the infection, have been very Damaging to the human system and people are looking for answers where medicine has failed them, and so we're really trying to give them, to breed a little bit back of that trust, to do it in the gentlest way and honestly, we don't use a lot of the new and sexy Drugs, truly, yeah, if anything, we ourselves have, you know, some hesitancy towards those things. And what's fabulous by dr Miha and this he's a formal medical editor so he can breathe the science and he can cut through the BS pretty quick, and so we feel like we have a little bit of a secret ammo in our sauce because he's able to help us out like that. But frankly, we weren't trained how to read research in school.

Speaker 1: 50:45

Well, yeah, no, I get that.

Speaker 8: 50:49

I.

Speaker 1: 50:51

Also kind of hated that that kind of Looking down on when, when, when people were trying their best to just read I mean, they're telling us for shutting down our country. I mean, at that time I moved Christie to California for a news anchor gig and I remember trying to get home. I was the only person I was probably one of a dozen people in not only San Diego but Seattle's airport, on a three-day journey to just try to get home back back to the Midwest, and I just remember how insane that whole thing was and it's. You want to shut everything down and then all I want to know Is I just want information and what's right or wrong and you're down on. You know, maybe it's almost like people talk about simplifying the tax forms. Maybe they need to simplify some of these studies for dummies so people can read them then. But I also don't think people are that stupid to where they can't read some of this stuff. Again a general idea.

Speaker 4: 51:45

I'd like to think right now I want to go ahead.

Speaker 1: 51:49

No well I wanted to touch on the mindset wellness shopcom you have through me and MD. What are some products that you that you carry?

Speaker 4: 51:58

Yeah, you know. So we carry a lot of things a lot of nutraceuticals, anything to help you sleep, anything to restore adrenal dysfunction or support your hormonal wellness. In the term of COVID realm, though, and health and restoration, we carry especially, you know, what Dr Peter McCullough has shown in studies to be very effective in helping you degrade any microclots, long-term or residual, especially like things like natokinase, curcumin, bromelain. We have resveratrol and quercetin, which are really good for helping neuronal health. If you come see us in a prescriptive way, we can get you things like methylene blue to restore your mitochondria, which is the energizing cell, battery packs of every Battery packs of every cell. Excuse me, we can get you other things like Lodil, cell trachsone, etc. But the mindset wellness shop is a good place to start With vetted, pure products, no additives, no fillers, no extra fluff and stuff. We use very pure and quality based products to help people maintain wellness or get to a state of wellness themselves.

Speaker 1: 53:00

Oh, okay. So, Rochelle, your team attended the shot debt, the documentary premiere. You might tell us more about how that went.

Speaker 4: 53:07

Absolutely. We loved every minute of it and it was really neat to see a great turnout too. So shot dead, you know, is by we, the Patriots USA org. Everybody can see the film themselves. It is free and up for the public. This was about specifically three people. They had been injured from the shot. Young person, so Trista, an 18 year old who lived here in Tulsa this is where our practice is located Post shot one and we think she might have had a shot too. She developed multi system organ failure and unfortunately passed away within three months. It also talks about Ernesto, ernesto Jr, who's a 16 year old who had a son cardiac death Five days after his shot. And then it goes into the story of Naomi, who was only 11 hours Lived on this earth. She was almost a full term baby that was born with intracranial hemorrhage and severe malformities, based off of her mother having to receive two shots while she was pregnant as a force of employment. And so it goes into these family stories. But it also captures the data that came out from Pfizer showing the injuries to particularly women who are pregnant. It's very fascinating About 270 women in those first 90 days of the trial of Pfizer, with shot one shot, two Enlisted into the study, and you know that only 32 of those women were followed up with. The rest, the two hundred third, the other 238, they didn't even consider to send them a. Hey, how you doing. And of the 32 that they did follow up with, 81% of them had a miscarriage, which is horrible flabbergassing and it's. It's a horrible, it's almost murderous, to be honest.

Speaker 1: 54:49

And so. I had no, continue it just goes into.

Speaker 4: 54:54

It goes into the real facts, it goes into the statistics. Dr Peter McCullough is on it, dr James Thorpe, who's a maternal fetal medicine physician of 44 years and an OBGYN. He explains these things and they show, and the awareness that we need to have, that these shots are not good for kids. Particularly these Shots have never been safe and proven effective for women who are pregnant. And then it exposes the organizations that took cash, that took money from the government to promote and influence, you know, the American public to take these shots, despite the alarming evidence that was against them right in the first 90 days. Pfizer knew this, the government knew this and it it. That's where the righteous anger comes in. You were just talking with your pastor friend earlier about how you know, I want to love my neighbor and love my enemy, but at the same time I'm mad.

Speaker 1: 55:46

There is something to yeah, I mean, look, I I'm one of them people. I I'm very calculated, I pick and choose what kind of confrontation I want. I'm not gonna have confrontations and airports. I need to get on a flight and you get out. I'm like, look, this is really, isn't the place. Yeah, let's kind of get through, get where we got to go. We can complain about it later. But, um, but there's lots of complaints to have to have about, about what took place.

Speaker 4: 56:14

Mm-hmm, I was.

Speaker 1: 56:16

I've been at manufacturing for well over a decade now. At this point I at that time I was a union I had to negotiate COVID policies, according to OSHA, at five different food factories. You know people that work by themselves. It's like no, you have to do this in this uncomfortable, hot situation Working in a grain mill and you need to mask up by yourself. You know in a quarter we're getting terminated over issues. It was. It was insane at that time and and I do I feel the same way. It's like I I don't like the kind of ganging up that you see social media wise. It's like, oh, you know you, people deserve this net. When somebody's asking you know for for grace. But I'm also saying like, yeah, but you know, you kind of need to Kind of admit the wrong. You did as well. Like I'm not trying to come on any kind of attacked individuals like that but at the same time you did wrong. What you did to people locked people down, people died people. They get to see their Families look what you did to children. You know I mean a bunch of people in a plant right now because of what my wife does. I don't talk about who I work for now, but a bunch of them are the COVID kids, as they like to call them. They didn't graduate high school, they went through the whole and now they're. Now they're kind of kicked out here in the world. We don't even talk about those issues of what happened.

Speaker 4: 57:29

You lock a public down for a couple years and freak them out right, or the kids that had to go to school and wear masks and then they missed developmental markers, because your facial expressions are very important in translating Motion and reading ocean, you know. So you talk about COVID kids in multiple ways, a lot of social milestones that were not hit or Impaired for a season because of these things. Even honestly, in the spreading of germs you're supposed to spread germ for near young. You're supposed to acquire immunity to multiple things and if you, you know, made everybody stay at home and now that Petri dish is in concoction for two years because we're all isolated, when we come back to the table, the kids systems are gonna be hit with quite a lot of stuff that they're not used to yet.

Speaker 1: 58:12

I'll tell you On that note, Rachele. It's about all the time we have. It's such a pleasure for you to join me today, and I get to to meet some of the guests in my wife's interview. Before you want to tell everyone where they can find you.

Speaker 4: 58:24

Thank you, yes, so we are at mehanmdcom. That's M-e-e-h-a-n-m is a. Mom D is in dadcom and you can book appointments online. You can also call our phone number, which will be at the bottom. We are licensed in 34 plus states. We do telemedicine consultations and in person. We even have people fly out to see us. Sometimes we would love to work with you. If you have any issues post-covid injection or infection, or just need some functional medicine consultations to, we love to get you well.

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