In this episode of The Schaftlein Report, host Mark Schaftlein engages in a compelling discussion with guest Gary Demar, acclaimed author and president of American Vision. The focus of the conversation centers on the surging support in both houses of government and the impactful marches occurring on college campuses. Together, they dissect the implications and significance of this growing trend, providing valuable insights into the current political landscape and its resonance among the youth. The episode offers a thought-provoking exploration of the evolving dynamics.
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Hello everybody, mark Schafflein with you and this is the Schafflein Report. It's Tuesday's edition and we have new broadcast locations today from Placida, florida, which is in Charlotte County on the west coast of Florida, and from the great state of Georgia, the suburbs of Atlanta. Gary DeMar, welcome back to the show. It's been a while Happy to have you with me today. Always good to be back with you, mark. Hey, listen, gary, we've got a lot of stuff to talk about today and I want to start with this. We've seen a lot, a lot of anti-Semitism. We've seen the stuff on college campuses. We've seen marches against the Jewish people. This has happened not only across the globe, in places like London, istanbul, muslim countries. It's happened in the United States college campuses, york City, washington DC, angeles. Gary, finally, finally, the good guys, in my opinion, are fighting back today with a march in Washington over 100,000 people supporting Israel, with speakers like Speaker of the House, mike Johnson, hakim Jeffries, united States Senators from the Republican Party, chuck Schumer a bipartisan support for the state of Israel. Gary, give me your impressions of today, what we saw at the mall, in the Capitol, and your opinion about some of this garbage we've seen on these college campuses lately.Speaker 2:
I think, one of the things we need to keep in mind here. This has been festering for a very, very long time and it took something like this to bring it out. It's not like all of a sudden these responses by these groups on college campuses all of a sudden rose to the top. This is something that's been going on for a very long time. A number of interesting things have taken place. You have a number of high-profile donors who are pulling their donation support from many of these colleges, at Harvard and some of the other ones. Another is there are a number of law firms who are going to refuse to hire people who have come out for a pro-Hamas, which I think is another good thing. All of these things are hitting the American people in a way that they've never been hit with this kind of stuff before. I think there's a wake-up call here the very fact that you called this a bipartisan support. I think the Democrats are scared to death because they were silent at the very beginning of this. They wanted this kind of equity position between Israel and Hamas. Maybe they did have ceasefire and so forth. I think they saw the writing on the wall here that they're finally coming out and taking a pro-Israel stance in all of this. I think this is happening in other areas as well. I think we probably won't get to all of this, but we're seeing it on this gender stuff, where you've got in sports, women are, men are taking over women's, women's spots in sports and there's some backlash with that. There's a woman just recently who was in a pool tournament and she was very high seed and she ended up saying I'm forfeiting, I'm giving up, I'm not going to compete against a man and what is an all-women's event. I think this is a wake-up call for many Americans and I think it's also a wake-up call for the Democrat party, which, fundamentally, most Jews have voted for Democrats. Then you got the Muslims here in the United States. Who are they going to vote for? I think this is going to have some effect on the election in 2024.Speaker 1:
There's no question it's going to have an effect on the election. Look, joe Biden was getting a lot of heat from the left and you know, folks, we always say we cut through the propaganda on this show. I disagree with Joe Biden on multitude of issues, but on this case here, gary, he is actually, to a degree, stood up to the very far left-wing radicals in his party and he said no, we are going to support Israel. I know he's pushed for a ceasefire. I can tolerate him asking for that, knowing, of course, that it's not going to happen and that Netanyahu has agreed to safe zones, to stop the shelling for a period of hours, to allow humanitarian aid to cross into Gaza and to allow citizens to move, but he has resisted calls for a complete ceasefire. Now maybe the conversations are different, but publicly he has been out saying that, and I at least have to respect the president for standing up to these far left-wing radicals in his party, of which the majority of whom are being really ripped apart by what I would call centrist Democrats. Now will it have an effect. It may have an effect, but, gary, at the end of the day, I look out. Maybe, you know, a year from now, in November, I'm saying, okay, who are these far left-wing radical Democrats gonna vote for? Will they come home for Joe Biden, or will they vote for Cornell West? Will they vote for Jill Stein, or will they simply stay home? I don't know the answer to that right now.Speaker 2:
Yeah, I don't either, but I, you know, I'm a little more cynical. I don't trust the Democrats, I don't, and I have a good bit of distrust of the Republicans, and my guess is that they did get a bit of internal polling and began to find out that the Jewish community was, I mean, upset. I mean, you had students, you know, probably in Barricade yeah, Barricaded in a library because fearful to come out because of the mobs that were out there and who knows what the donor class was like in terms of the Jewish community. Regarding the Democrat Party, so I'm glad to see that there's this bi-partisan support here, but I'm still a little cynical as to what's really, really behind it. This is politics as usual for the Democrats. They, you know, it's the wet finger in the wind to see which way the winds are blowing, and I think they've just taken that particular avenue. But we'll have to see what actually takes place in terms of long range with all of this.Speaker 1:
Well, gary, you know, knowing your skepticism of Democrats as I've known you for many years, I'm actually saying wow, a metamorphosis here a little bit Gary's actually giving an intro to. But deep down inside, skepticism is right below the surface. So folks don't like Gary's opinion JD here. He is a rock solid conservative and I'll leave it for Gary tomorrow to give Democrats a little bit of credit. Folks, that's like moving mountains.Speaker 2:
Yeah, and I'm all suspicious. Yeah, suspicious credit, the suspicious credit.Speaker 1:
So I can see that. I can see that. Well, gary, you know what was really great, okay, and we did see, you know, a hundred thousand people out there on the mall in Washington DC today and I got to tell you, as an American, I'm really proud of those citizens that have come out to support Israel. I think it's been an absolute disgrace Again what's happened on these college campuses. Yeah, can we control what happens with marches in London, istanbul, other countries? No, and particularly in the mist. But when I was here at home, I was actually shocked at the anti-Semitism taking place on these campuses and I'm glad to see some support coming in such large numbers. And, gary, you know we both said about the bipartisan nature ship. It's hard to get anything bipartisan in our country, but to have literally the Speaker of the House and the minority leader, hakeem Jeffries, giving passionate speeches, both of them in support of Israel, I think that's an impressive event that took place and I, as an American, am happy that our country is fully supporting Israel. Let's talk a little bit about what's going on in the war with Hamas. Gary, you know it's your typical Hamas thing they use hostages, they use hospitals, they fire at their own people. They try to blame Israel. But on the military campaign itself, the Israelis are having quite a bit of success rooting out these Hamas terrorists.Speaker 2:
Yeah and look, this is necessary and it's saddening just to what we're seeing even within Gaza. But I think I watched this short video the other day about where are all these young anti-Semitic people getting their news, their anti-Israel material? And it's coming from places like TikTok, and so they're only hearing the Hamas. You know a pro-Gaza approach to this. The pro is, you know, islam approach to all of this, and so they're getting a false narrative of what's actually taking place there. And then you'll get dribbles coming out of what's from Israel about the approach that they're taking in order to hunt down these Hamas murderers. But again, these tunnels are underneath you know, hospitals. We hear stories about the Hamas terrorists shooting people who are trying to escape, to get away from them. They continue to use innocent citizens as shields in order to keep, you know, the western basic fundamental Christian values in check, and I think Israel is probably doing the best they can given the circumstances.Speaker 1:
Yeah, I echo what you're saying there, gary, and you know the Israeli government. They have a plan, they're executing their plan. You know I saw pictures of them taking over a Hamas headquarters. I mean, I have to applaud the Israeli military. Look, they've suffered casualties. This war has not been without casualties. Last count, I saw 47 Israeli soldiers had been killed. So it's not without bloodshed on the Israeli side, gary. But this is an event that has to happen. Cannot have a neighbor next to you who are 1400 citizens are raped, brutalized, babies are murdered, heads are cut off, body pieces, torture. I mean, you cannot, that can't exist. So the fact is, it's time has come. The Israelis are executing on their plan and I believe it's not only this, is not only Republicans folks supporting, but it is bipartisan support for Israel, as it should be. Yes, so there are a few radical left Democrats against this, like the Rashidah to leaves and the Ilhan Omar. Sure, there are, but for the most part, gary, I have to applaud both parties for their support.Speaker 2:
Let me ask you this I want to turn.Speaker 1:
Yeah, I want to turn politically to the aid. Now, you know, because you know we have two aid packages. We have the aid package to Israel and we have the aid package to Ukraine. They're separated right now. Gary, how do you think Congress is going to react to this? Because you have bipartisanship in both Senate and the House. They want to pass this aid. How do you see it playing out? Will it be separate bills? Will Israel get their aid? Will Ukraine? How do you handicap this?Speaker 2:
Well, again, this is you know the way Congress works, senate, the Senate works on all this. It's like they they want to do this package deal because they know there are some who support Ukraine and some don't support Ukraine. You got some people who are going to. Most of them are going to support Israel. So if we can create, they can create a package where they can get them the money for for Ukraine by by support that's coming out for for Israel. They're gonna, they're gonna put the package together and I think they should be. I think they should be separate. I think Ukraine is a disaster from the get-go and and it's I don't know what the solution is going to be with all this, but giving, putting, pouring more and more money into this, I don't think is a solution to it. I'm reluctant to give a well to anyone these days. It's just it's correct us about who makes the money with all of this stuff.Speaker 1:
Well, the one thing I really like the yeah, I'm not. We're gonna talk a little bit about this after the break when we get into the politics but I do like the way the Republicans have talked about. Look, there may be aid for Israel, there may be aid for Ukraine. I get the feeling the aid for Ukraine is gonna be more military equipment rather than dollars. If that happens, and the aid for Israel, I do think we'll get passed because there's such overwhelming support for it. How it's gonna play out that I don't know. But, folks, we're gonna be back in about 60 seconds, we're gonna take a little break and then Gary and I are gonna talk about the political implications of what all this means.Speaker 3:
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Folks, we're back and I want to get on to talk about the political implications About what's happening. I really want to focus on the Republican Party, gary. Sunday night, senator Tim Scott announced he was Suspending his campaign, effectively withdrawing from the race. You had Aisa Hutchinson and Governor Doug of North Carolina, who didn't qualify for the last last debate. It appears to me were really down to four potential Challengers. You have Vivek Rama Swami and Chris Christie, ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley and, if I really those four clearly have the money, the name recognition and the polling right now to continue on as we move forward. I, my personal opinion is I Think it's really down to two and I think that's Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley. Now Chris Christie could prove me wrong by doing great New Hampshire, we run by doing well in both. He has the money, he's got the youth, he's got the energy. But, gary, having multiple people, whether it's just two or three or four, once these primer the caucuses and I will come about, and then New Hampshire and South Carolina Unlit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but unless we have one alternative, it's gonna be very difficult To, if anyone to, challenge Donald Trump because of his current commanding lead of a minimum of Of 30 points in the current polling oh.Speaker 2:
I agree, I think Chris Christie is toast. I don't think he has it. I don't think he has any chance. He just doesn't. He just doesn't have the personality, doesn't come across as you know somebody you'd like to want to sit down and have dinner with Nikki Haley. You know, I don't know. I know she's popular in some, in some areas and I, I, you know, desantis, I don't think he again, I really, my personal opinion is this is all about you know, the vice presidency who, who is who would Trump pick as a vice president Choice? And I think that I think that's what this is all about, and I think Tim Scott did the right thing. I think now he becomes a better pick in terms of vice presidency Because he's kind of deferred to Trump's. It meant Trump's the man and he my guess is he's probably fairly high up on on the Trump's list in terms of a vice president. Can't see, I don't, I don't, I don't think, I don't think Trump would, would pick Nikki Haley at all. So I don't, I think DeSantis made the mistake of getting into this race from the very beginning. His, his best job was to turn Florida around and he did it and he really should have continued to focus on that for at least another four years.Speaker 1:
There's some talk Again. Nikki Haley, tim Scott, rhonda Santis. Obviously Tim Scott acquitted himself quite well in the race, very respectful, and even when he bowed out on a Trey Gowdy show the other night he did it in a respectful way. Just basically saying now is not my time, but that doesn't mean the future. Tim Scott has an incredibly bright future. He's a star in the Republican Party. I would say the same thing for Rhonda Santis and Nikki Haley. They're both stars within the party. And look, we never want to pick races before the voters have had a chance to vote. Gary, we know that lesson, we've seen it, but all indications are right now that, unless you say, unless something happens, well, 91 indictments. Seriously, folks, I mean, what else can they throw at the man they're trying to take his bit away from him in New York? On you, completely no pun intended. Folks trumped up charges. These politicians have no idea what these buildings are worth. You know, for some of them to say Mar-a-Lago was worth $8 million. These people are nuts. Mar-a-lago could be pushing nine figures easily at that particular time. So for us to sit here and question what buildings are worth. You know, when banks loaned on and Gary, again, I'm not missing some Trump didn't default on these loans. They were paid back. No one got stiff. It's not like it's not like what happened in the crypto world, where the crypto kids stiff billions from people. You're an investor. You're working in terms of companies.Speaker 2:
Hey, we're going to buy this company, we're going to merge with this company. You're not going to take their word for it. Show me your assets. I want to see what I'm buying here, Right.Speaker 1:
And the banks have appraisals. They appraise these properties, they look at the cash flow. So to me, okay, you know, yeah, it's a judge is going to make a decision, to fine, but at the least these are distractions against Trump. Now you know, I have a theory on this Gary Trump actually dealing with these distractions, being in the courthouse lambasting a judge, you know, doing the things that Trump does. He's not on the campaign trail. I mean, he's not, and I'm almost thinking Pete. Here's my view, particularly as Trump supporters and you and I have supported the president in the past. Maybe we'll likely in the future, but they're seeing, I think, the average American. They put themselves in Trump's position and say, my God, if they can go after Trump like this, they can go after me, they can go after my friends, my business associates and I think his polling numbers went up because they see a guy fighting back. And so many Americans think about the scary. The right track run country 72%. Wrong track 28%. Right track is Joe Biden. To all the runs 70%. Yes, but the over the over line piece to this is people are fed up with government. They don't feel government is helping them out. They feel inflation is breaking their back, despite the good report. We got the day, which we'll try to squeeze in. But, gary, that's my thoughts. They see Trump fighting the system about what they view as unfavorable treatment. What say you on this?Speaker 2:
Yeah, in fact, one of Trump's lawyers in the New York case came out on the steps of the courthouse and said look, you know you can, you can agree or disagree with with Donald Trump, but what's happening there could happen to anyone, and Donald Trump has a microphone to tell people about this, and most of us don't. We and these things are done and no one ever hears about them. And liberals or conservatives, do you want to? Do you want to be put into position of someone doing evaluation of your property? That? And because there's some political deal behind it all, there's somebody in your community that wants, you know, wants to put a high rise in over here and so forth, and they're going to devalue this and over that. Again, this is, this is all of us, and it's unfortunate that this is taking place, but I think this is Donald Trump's campaign. This is, this is all part of his campaign. He is, he's still going around speaking across the country. You know they're trying to give a gag order on the guy and he continues to speak out and he says look, find me, whatever you do. So this is unconstitutional their freedom of speech. I want to address these particular issues and I'm going to do so, and I don't care what the judge has to say. I think it's great. I really do.Speaker 1:
Yeah, and I think your voice, gary, is representative not only of some supporters, but a lot of independence feel this way too, and you know it really calls me. When I hear Biden come out or these Kamala Harris or some of these liberal politicians say, well, it's that mega crowd. You know the mega people. They're trying to talk down to people, down to voters, a big swath of the country that supports this and Gary, for them to say, okay, hey, listen, we had a great night on Tuesday. Look, the fact of the matter is Joe Biden was not on the ballot Tuesday. Okay, donald Trump wasn't on that ballot. You look at turnout in some of these states, kentucky in particular the turnout when Donald Trump's name is on that ballot is 40% greater than what we saw in an all year election. So I mean for people to try to give Joe Biden a pass and yes, I'm not going to get an abortion issue, because there's some issues behind that. We don't have time for that but when people take into the fact that when Trump's name is on this ballot you and I even talked about it last year with seven swing states out there and Trump leading in five of them and Democratic operatives like Axelrod coming out and saying he's too old, he needs to look to get off the ticket, when all that type of things is happening. This is not happening in a vacuum. If Axelrod is saying it, you know prominent other Democrats are saying it. And Gary, in your opinion, can someone else replace Biden, or is it? Is it too late at this point and is the die sort of cast?Speaker 2:
Well, I don't think it's too late. The question is, who would? Who would do it? Of course, you got Newsom from California. I think he would be a bust people. All you have to do is just say look, if you want you, if you want your, the rest of your country, to look like California when people are leaving the state and look at the most of what's happening with the homeless population, then go ahead, go vote for Newsom. You hear periodically that you know it's gonna be Michelle Obama, that she's gonna come in and rescue the Democrat Party. I'm not sure that the Obamas would want to do that. They're making way, way too much money right now and I think there would be a backlash among conservative men. I think they would come out and say, look, I haven't voted in the last two elections, but I'm gonna vote in this election. So because she's, you know, basically, I think, a whole lot worse than Hillary Clinton. And so this is, you know, politically, you mentioned, you know, what happened in Virginia with all of this, but this was, this was an off-year election, and these are you. I don't think you can engage, you can gauge what's gonna take place in a presidential election in terms of an off off-year election. And I would have to say one other thing it's not enough to vote against the Democrats, and this is, I think, one of the faults of the GOP. You know, vote for us, because we're not Democrats. I think the American people want to hear from the Republicans tell us what you're going to do. Don't just tell us stuff, but tell us what you are actually going to do and actually do it. And I don't think the GOP gives us, gives voters, enough of this is what we're going to do and we're gonna follow through with it. And I think that's what happened to McCarthy. It's how we he lost his speaker position. The question do what you're gonna say you're going to do, and we'll vote for you you know whether you agree with new speaker Mike Johnson or not.Speaker 1:
I happen to like him a lot and, gary, I want to give you a minute here before we close out. You had some thoughts about some how Mike Johnson's being treated as speaker, and Mike Johnson is a core concern if he has his beliefs. There's nothing phoning about Mike Johnson, but Gary tell our audience a story about what he's dealing with as a result of his faith oh yeah, they're attacking him because of his Christian faith, because you know he believes the Bible.Speaker 2:
Look there, there are tens of millions of people here in the United States who go to church every Sunday and who are, who are Christians, who believe the Bible. And look, anybody who has any understanding of the development of Western civilization. It's, it's based upon biblical. You know principles, all you have to. I wrote a book recently just published, a book called the case for America's Christian a heritage, and it lays out all of these things. You look at the original state constitutions. You look at days of prayer and fasting the Constitution of the United States has done in the year of our Lord, 1787. There are four or five references in the Declaration of Independence. You go on down the line with all of this. This is, this is what fundamentally made made the United States and the. And he did an interview just just recently and someone said what about the separation between church and state? And the speaker said look, that phrase is not found in the Constitution. It was a letter that Thomas, thomas Jefferson, had written to Baptist, and this was an 1802. It was to keep the federal government out of the, the churches. The Constitution of the United States. The First Amendment is very clear Congress shall make no law respecting and establishment religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It was to keep the federal government from telling the states what they were to do in terms of religion. No one is calling for the government of the United States to force people to become Christian or anything else. It was to keep the national government out of our lives in terms of you know who you're gonna sell a cake to and who are you gonna photograph and who you're gonna make a website for in terms of what's happened in terms of homosexuality and transgenderism.Speaker 1:
So, gary, he's done a great job with that. Gary, I gotta say thank you for coming back on the show. I'm gonna have you back soon, folks, we're out of time.Speaker 3:
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